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SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:23 pm
by Stallion
I wonder if Rivals should be including the preferred walkon in our commitment list because it may make a difference in finishing in Top 50 at least with regard to Average Per Recruit. Could be used for some publicity if we are the Top non-BCS class. Right now No. 1 in Total Points and Average but I've read that UCF still has two 4 stars they think they have a shot at. Must have figured out that Marshall was violating NCAA rules by signing 34-35.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/smu/football/re ... 11/all/all

Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:51 pm
by BRStang
#50 overall, #1 in C-USA, and #1 Non-BCS. Not too shabby.

Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:29 pm
by Dutch
ok, that shows 28. i've been paying attention, but can't pick out the +1. i thought it was 27. who's the bonus?

Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:43 pm
by SMU Pony Mom
So excited about this class! Really going to be hard to have to wait until September for the season to start. Congrats to all of the coaches - what an amazing job!

Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:45 pm
by Wuba
Stallion wrote:I wonder if Rivals should be including the preferred walkon in our commitment list because it may make a difference in finishing in Top 50 at least with regard to Average Per Recruit. Could be used for some publicity if we are the Top non-BCS class. Right now No. 1 in Total Points and Average but I've read that UCF still has two 4 stars they think they have a shot at. Must have figured out that Marshall was violating NCAA rules by signing 34-35

http://rivals.yahoo.com/smu/football/re ... 11/all/all


Don't worry, including him will not make a difference in the rivals points based ranking system. There are bonus point implications if a team's average stars per recruit is over 3.0, but no impact if they are below 3.0. Since SMU was already under a 3.0 average (just 1 4-star and multiple 2-star), adding in one more 2-star does not make a difference.

Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:48 pm
by BRStang
Dutch wrote:ok, that shows 28. i've been paying attention, but can't pick out the +1. i thought it was 27. who's the bonus?


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Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:54 pm
by Stallion
but it affects average per recruit-right? At the time I first investigated the facts for this post I thought we were only holding onto Top 50 in Average Per Recruit.

Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:05 pm
by Wuba
Stallion wrote:but it affects average per recruit-right? At the time I first investigated the facts for this post I thought we were only holding onto Top 50 in Average Per Recruit.


Yes, you are right, it does affect average per recruit as they include all of the signed recruits in that calculation. I meant to refer to just the Rivals points based ranking, I should have been more clear.

Removing the preferred walk-on 2-star raised SMU avg per recruit to 2.81 vs 2.79 when including him, if anyone is interested.

Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:38 am
by gostangs
any notable BCS conference teams below us?

Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:03 am
by ReedFrawg
gostangs wrote:any notable BCS conference teams below us?


Wouldn't say most of these are notable but they are the BCS teams behind smu in avg stars per recruit. No one from the mt west other than TCU is even close to SMU and only La Tech is somewhat within sniffing distance from the WAC. No one from the MAC is close either.

Boston College
Wake Forest
NC St
Duke
Iowa St
Kansas St
Pitt
UConn
Syracuse
Purdue
Indiana
BYU (Independent)
Ore St
Colorado
Wash St
Vandy

Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:26 am
by SMU 86
BRStang wrote:#50 overall, #1 in C-USA, and #1 Non-BCS. Not too shabby.


TCU would be the number 1 Non BCS school since they don't go to the BCS until after next year.

Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:17 am
by ponyte
Anyone know why UCF fell out of the top 50? seems they had a great class as well.

Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:24 pm
by Pony_Fan
Enough of the nit picky stuff, good class for SMU compared to the last 20 years. I think a few more would have gotten BCS offers but had already been 100% sold on SMU.

Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:40 pm
by Stallion
UCF has added one 4 star, a one 5.6 three star and rumors are very very strong that they have gotten a 4 star QB to switch from Louisville to UCF which commitment is a done deal but will be announced at a press conference tomorrow. UCF could finish near No. 40 or above in Rivals. SMU has been pushed out of Top 50 but remains in 2nd ahead of Marshall in Rivals in both Points and Average Points. SMU still is the No. 1 non-BCS Class according to Scout at No. 48

Re: SMU Back in Rivals Top 50

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:23 pm
by DanFreibergerForHeisman
Pony_Fan wrote:Enough of the nit picky stuff, good class for SMU compared to the last 20 years. I think a few more would have gotten BCS offers but had already been 100% sold on SMU.


No [deleted] - just to even be in the running for the so-called "best non-BCS class" just shows how on the right track we are.

Great job to all of the coaches - and thanks.