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2012 CA DB offeree

Postby The PonyGrad » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:42 pm

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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby smudubs » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:02 pm

Actually three of these guys have SMU offers (Simmons and Peyton also have offers). I'm glad that we are going after the best California has to offer, but I would love to know why we don't focus more on in-state recruiting. Recruiting studs from CA won't put butts in seats the way that signing local standouts would.
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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby RGV Pony » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:09 pm

my guess is if we had a three-time Super Bowl winner who was our O-line coach that played HS ball in Dallas and had all kinds of Dallas and by extension Texas connections, we'd be going after more in state.

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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby indianmustang » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:42 pm

right now lets get the best players from every where
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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby The PonyGrad » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:01 pm

RGV Pony wrote:my guess is if we had a three-time Super Bowl winner who was our O-line coach that played HS ball in Dallas and had all kinds of Dallas and by extension Texas connections, we'd be going after more in state.

Keep mining that California gold for now..


The big xii cartel/mystique seems a tougher nut to crack but winning will help resolve that.
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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby Stallion » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:40 pm

nonsense, TCU has bneen whipping multiple Big 12 schools for about 65% of its recruits for each and every year from Day 1 when Franchione took the TCU job in 1998. SMU has a great coaching staff -but if it has a weakness it is lack of the Texas contacts and connections that the other schools in Texas have. You get a recruiter in DFW, Greater Houston or East Texas with the same connections and vibe with the kids that Klemm has in California then you'll see more success in Texas. Recruiting is about 1 on 1 connections between coaches and recruits. Remember that camp tour last year where comments were made about lack of quality turnouts at just about every stop. Use the Rivals mapping application which allows you to map where recruits are coming from. SMU isn't recruiting California-its essentially recruiting within a 50 mile radius North and South from LA which is where Klemm has his contacts. You find the right guy in Texas-SMU can succeed recruiting in Texas and especially in DFW with that right Coach. See what is happening in BB recruiting too.
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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby expony18 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:59 am

why not hire eric dickerson
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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby Wuba » Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:22 pm

I agree that it would be great to get a coach with Klemm's types of connections in North/East Texas. I thought it would be interesting to see how our coaches recruits compared to each other.

Using the recruiting coach listed on Rivals, I averaged stars and points for each coach.

Apologies, I do not know how to lay out this table any better than is shown below.

Coach Players Avg * Avg rating
Klemm 9 2.89 5.52
Reinebold 6 2.67 5.52
Mason 5 2.60 5.50
Hill 2 3.00 5.50
Odum 2 2.50 5.40
Morrison 1 3.00 5.50
None 3 3.00 5.53

The players without anyone listed were Galindo, Sims, Longoria and Wood. I included Galindo in Klemm's count because I was pretty sure that was right. Happy to update for the other 3 if anyone knows the right coach to list for them. Or, if anyone has a better source than Rivals to list the recruiting coach I would use it.

I also did it by state:
State Players Avg * Avg rating
TX 17 2.82 5.51
LA 4 2.75 5.50
CA 7 2.71 5.50
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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby ponyboy » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:18 pm

smudubs wrote:Recruiting studs from CA won't put butts in seats the way that signing local standouts would.


You hear this all the time. But seriously, what effect on attendance does having local talent really have? I'd think mere winning would have a far greater effect.
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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby SMU 86 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:03 pm

The further you get away from Dallas and Texas the better better reputation SMU has regarding the social atmosphere. We are not viewed as much as the snobby prejudice school like we are locally but in places like the west coast SMU is viewed just as a school that gives you a really good education. That is the ugly truth.
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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby ponyboy » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:06 pm

I've always felt like SMU was more a midwest school, and now a California school, than a local or even Texas school. That tends to isolate us a bit.
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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby Pony81 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:21 pm

SMU will continue to grow its student body from the midwest and CA. I graduated in 1981 and it had a significant contingent from outside TX.

Now it has grown substantially and with the TX job market outpacing the rest of the country plus UT now admitting more less than top 10 students, the out of states will continue to become more significant.

Like athletes and winning, i don't care where the students come from as long as they are smart and can become successful alums that give back to SMU.

Being in Dallas is an incredible draw for SMU.
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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby ponyboy » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:58 pm

I believe more students come from out of state than in state.
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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby SMU Pony Mom » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:32 pm

I believe the admissions office is currently saying that 50% of students are from TX and 50% are out of state.
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Re: 2012 CA DB offeree

Postby PK » Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:05 pm

Wuba wrote:The players without anyone listed were Galindo, Sims, Longoria and Wood. I included Galindo in Klemm's count because I was pretty sure that was right. Happy to update for the other 3 if anyone knows the right coach to list for them. Or, if anyone has a better source than Rivals to list the recruiting coach I would use it.

http://www.ponyfans.com/features/recruit11/

Scroll to the bottom of the article. Click on any player's name and it will list who recruited them along with other good info. 8)
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