SMU Law Grad/Florida Govenor to Slash Florida H.S. Sports

[Stallion]

Had to sit through a deposition with this loser one time. This guy is such a smug [deleted] who bilked the US Government out of Billions-he'll be lucky to get elected Dog Catcher after 1 term. He's already down to a 35% approval rating BEFORE this genius proposal

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/1 ... 36767.html

[PoconoPony]

Had to sit through a deposition with this loser one time. This guy is such a smug [deleted] who bilked the US Government out of Billions-he'll be lucky to get elected Dog Catcher after 1 term. He's already down to a 35% approval rating BEFORE this genius proposal

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/1 ... 36767.html

Hate to tell you that for at least the last 20 years most high schools in California charge athletes a major fee to cover use of facilities, coaches salaries, equipment, insurance and officiating costs. Sports are viewed as an extracurricular activity and the participants are responsible for the costs.

[ponyboy]

Get government out of the business of funding anything. What they fund they control and evitably screw up. Privatize schools, privatize school sports.

[Alaric]

Get government out of the business of funding anything.

starting with the residential mortgage market

[gostangs]

Linking to Huffington tells you the slant before you even open it.

[stc9]

I am currently living in FLA. In most non-urban school districts the booster clubs pick up the bills for the entire Athletic Department. I live on the border of St. Johns County. In St. Johns all atheltic funding (with the exception of the AD's salary) comes from the boosters. In Duval County (Jacksonville) the Schools have a budget for the Athletic department.

THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA! There are more "at risk" kids in urban areas than there are in rural areas. These "at risk" kids need another mentor in their lives. At the high school level, mentoring is part of the coach's job description. These kids have an additional 10 hours of supervision/mentoring that they wouldn't otherwise get. Unlike other students they are accountable for succeeding/passing in the classroom.

[mathman]

Linking to Huffington tells you the slant before you even open it.

Exactly what I thought. Didn't even open the link. Libs hate common sense approach to anything.

[PoconoPony]

Let me add another bit of trivia to this thread. I live in the coal mining eastern section of football crazy Pennsylvania. The average high school head coach's salary in this region is $ 3,200 per season paid by most school districts although some coaches/staffs are paid by the boosters. A selected number of the staff may be paid up to $2,000 for the season and at least 3 of the staff coaches will necessarily be volunteers. A large number of the head coaches and staff members are not teachers or employed by the school districts, but rather, people who work full time at other jobs and coach for the love of football and the kids. They are hired by the school boards to exclusively coach that sport and nothing more. The average annual budget for equipment for the 5 high schools nearest to my residence is $ 2,800 for all equipment. Understand that at $400 a helmet a coach cannot even buy more than a few helmets and his budget is shot. The fund raisers sponsored by the boosters must pay for virtually all other costs for equipment, uniforms, cameras, staff phones....etc. Yes, the school districts will pay for field maintenance, lights, bus transportation and officiating costs. No schools in PA can afford drug testing programs which are so fundamental in Texas. There is no spring ball anywhere in the Northeastern states by state league rule because there is simply no money to pay for coaches and facilities. For the governing bodies to approve spring ball would give a very few selected schools a totally unfair competitive advantage which is not in the best interest of the sport. Lastly, and logically following there is no money for coaches and 7 on 7 games which gives the southern US area high schools such a competitive advantage in developing skills and experience. When you examine the reasons why Rivals and Scout show so few rated kids in the Northeasten states it is because of these factors. Simply stated, the kids do not have the same opportunities to develop.

For these reasons there is a trememdous competitive shift in the last 15 years to the southern and western states where spring ball and 7 on 7 is allowed This is a major factor in why the talent pool in the Northeast is deminished and a major reason why the Div. 1 colleges including the Big East and Big 10 cannot remain nationally competitive recruiting NY, NJ, PA, Del, MD, VA, WV, OH and must recruit Florida, Georgia, Alabama. LA, California and Texas kids. When new programs jump into Div. 1 such as UConn, Buffalo and MD fires a good coach seeking to be more competitive and Villanova assesses moving up, the question is where do you get the volume of talent to compete when it is not being developed in your region? At the same time, all the other top area programs (Penn State, Ohio State, Pitt, WV, VA Tech, VA, BC, Syracuse, Rutgers , Temple) are after the same limited kids. With new programs at UCF, Georgia State, Southern Florida...etc. kids do not need to go north anymore to play in a Div.1 school which is the quandry that that faces the major Northeast programs as they seek to remain nationally prominant and competitive.

[No Quarter]

Does Texas still have the Robin Hood laws whereby ISDs that are "affluent" subsidize which are less "fortunate?"

I don't know how it worked out or what the present situation is, but when the rule was made sports fees for participation in the HPISD were enacted or increased. Maybe a current Park Cities resident will recite the history of that for us.

Funny, the Robin Hood laws worked on and not for some people whose situation was (is) quite different than those in Park Cities. For example, the ISD serving Crane County in West Texas is (was) also subject to the same rule because of the oil production. Maybe someone who lives in the Permaian basin can weigh in on that.

My own view is that income redistribution on all levels in this country, with resulting economic dislocations is a great drag on future growth and the proper allocation of recources. Simply put there are school districts and counties that should merge rather than be propped up by taxes levied on some remote group.

The governor of Wisconsin was right. The governor of Florida is right. I hope they both succeed.

[stc9]

The governor of Wisconsin was right. The governor of Florida is right. I hope they both succeed.

I haven't quite figured out what I think about Rick Scott yet. For the last 10 years I have run a youth sports organization (non-state funded). I see kids from wealthy suburbs and disadvantaged areas. I spend a lot of time working with kids. Cutting sports for most of these kids will do more harm than good.

To put it into context; answer the following question, "When has it ever been a good thing to give teenagers more unstructured free time?" I assure you the vast majority who no longer have a practice to attend will not be spending that free time in the library. So what will they be doing?

[Mexmustang]

and it really doesn't matter which socio-economic class they come from. They all need mentoring and to be kept busy.

[No Quarter]

stc9 wrote (in part):

For the last 10 years I have run a youth sports organization (non-state funded).

If your program does not depend on taxes it is basically outside the original thought that led to the thread.

I think that anyone who reads this would congratulate you - and others - who give time and money as volunteers.

[RednBlue11]

Had to sit through a deposition with this loser one time. This guy is such a smug [deleted] who bilked the US Government out of Billions-he'll be lucky to get elected Dog Catcher after 1 term. He's already down to a 35% approval rating BEFORE this genius proposal

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/1 ... 36767.html

Hate to tell you that for at least the last 20 years most high schools in California charge athletes a major fee to cover use of facilities, coaches salaries, equipment, insurance and officiating costs. Sports are viewed as an extracurricular activity and the participants are responsible for the costs.

florida is not california...do not equate them

[RednBlue11]

Get government out of the business of funding anything. What they fund they control and evitably screw up. Privatize schools, privatize school sports.

wow, let's deepen the ranks of the undereducated in this country...GREAT IDEA!

[RednBlue11]

Linking to Huffington tells you the slant before you even open it.

Exactly what I thought. Didn't even open the link. Libs hate common sense approach to anything.

that's a ridiculous point of view on it's face alone