Food for thought

[Mitch McConnell]

While everybody was yipping at each other about the frustrations of this staff not recruiting Texas like it should -- again I do think this staff needs to do a better job here -- did we all realize that these arguments were going on in April?

Ironically, that just happened to be the time when SMU was going through spring football. It's a little hard to really pour a ton of 24/7 energy into recruiting when you're trying to build the foundation for the following season with the current roster of players.

Sure, there can be the phone call and the drive-by evaluations periodically. But now, since all of the Texas high school football programs are in full swing with their spring and SMU just finished, I would trust that there will be more of a presence by SMU.

Most of the high schools are finishing up around late May.

Keep in mind that SMU's spring football was delayed by probably a month because of the new turf being established.

It's not a coincidence that when a DI program is in the middle of spring football, the energies devoted to recruiting are reduced. It happens to everybody.

Oh and breaking news to the keeper of the star, did you happen to notice that more good players throughout the country are still receiving offers? The offers did not stop on April 1. I hear you about the offer period being the first 2-3 months of the year, but that IS NOT the ironclad way to secure the commitment.

[RE Tycoon]

SMU does not operate in a vacuum. There are 119 other schools who have spring ball and they still make offers. Your argument would seem to validate that they should be making more inroads locally since they are tethered to Dallas during Spring practice.

By the way, I'm not against offering all these great players outside of Texas (hopefully some commit or we will look real stupid), I just don't think it is a sustainable way to recruit long term. If we lose Klemm, we're toast.

[PK]

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[Mexmustang]

Think he has been reading our posts? Doesn't an offensive line coach have the same level of coaching responsiblities as a receiver coach?

[smudubs]

The funniest thing to me in all of the bellyaching about recruiting is when someone suggests that we need to hire __________ (a local, dynamic African American former player from some Texas school) to help boost local recruiting. People tend to forget that once you get the guys here, you still have to be able to coach them. Unless the individual has coaching experience I would pass.

Or we can just bring back Steve Malin. He could recruit his @$$ off, couldn't coach a lick, often times acted like he thought he was black, and ended up getting us on probation. Moral of the story, be careful what you wish for.

[Stallion]

Just the facts-80% of SMU offers right now have been extended by 2 African-American assistants. Might want to check the ages and google images of the Coaching Staffs of the teams recruiting against us in Texas.

[Mitch McConnell]

Just the facts-80% of SMU offers right now have been extended by 2 African-American assistants. Might want to check the ages and google images of the Coaching Staffs of the teams recruiting against us in Texas.

I'm going to commission you or MexMustang to do some research for us:

One of you two can get on your little Rivals thingy. Go through every recruit in the state of Texas and report to us HOW MANY of those recruits are listing SMU with interest. NOT OFFERS. Interest.

No spin from if it's high, medium, low or none. Just interest.

But if you insist that that doesn't count as SMU LEGITIMATELY recruiting in Texas, that's up to you.

We agree the Texas angle needs to be better, BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT....

SMU'S REPUTATION IN TEXAS WILL CHANGE WHEN IT PRODUCES A SIGNATURE WIN. The Jones era doesn't have one yet.

[GiddyUp]

Just the facts-80% of SMU offers right now have been extended by 2 African-American assistants. Might want to check the ages and google images of the Coaching Staffs of the teams recruiting against us in Texas.

Your favorite school has two African-American assistants, others on that staff mostly old and white.

[Stallion]

TCU does have only 2 African American Coaches but based on estimates in the Coaches bios(exact birthdates aren't listed for many) I'd estimate SMU's coaching staff averages 9-10 years older per coach than TCU. I estimate based on years of college education and/or actual birthdates that SMU's Coaching Staff is 58, 62, 52, 59, 54, 52, 63, 47, 41, and 32.

Now let's look at UT:
http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/ ... -bios.html

How about Oklahoma:
http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-fo ... staff.html

Then there is Texas A&M:
http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/m- ... staff.html

Couldn't find a group pic of Tech's Coaching Staff but the Roster has links at bottom showing they are a bunch of Generation Xs
http://www.texastech.com/sports/m-footb ... ml#coaches

University of Houston:
http://www.uhcougars.com/sports/m-footb ... aches.html

[smudubs]

Personally, I find it hard to believe that staff is ignoring Texas entirely. I don't subscribe to Rivals, but I do have a Scout subscription. I know that no one is working SMU recruiting on that site at the moment and there seems to be similar complaints from Rivals subscribers. I'm not trashing either site, but is it possible that given the apparent lack of coverage from both sites that they are not reporting all Texas offers? Personally, I believe this is a more likely scenario.

[Stallion]

I've thought that might have been the case-which is one reason I waited about a month after it became pretty obvious that SMU wasn't recruiting Texas hard. The editor of Rivals in a post about 2 weeks ago claimed they assured us that is not the case with the possible exception of a player or 2 here or there. The top recruits are getting interviewed by schools from across the country and are invariably asked their offers. The SMU services know who SMU is recruiting-how do you think they find out about all the Califiornia and Florida kids.

[GiddyUp]

Off topic food for thought: two former SMU head coaches now assistants at Texas Schools - Rossley and Bennett.

You forgot Baylor...

[Stallion]

yeah I couldn't find a group picture but they have plenty of younger Coaches too. Here's their Coaching Staff link but you have to click on bios. I checked and found 7 under 50-2 under 40 and 1 under 30 with 3 African Americans then round it out with Briles, Bennett and Gush.
http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-foo ... ml#coaches

[Vitale]

Oh and breaking news to the keeper of the star, did you happen to notice that more good players throughout the country are still receiving offers? The offers did not stop on April 1. I hear you about the offer period being the first 2-3 months of the year, but that IS NOT the ironclad way to secure the commitment.

Perhaps you're aware that there is no ironclad way to secure a commitment, or that there is more than one way to skin the proverbial cat.

And how much sleep do you lose trying to figure out ways to get little digs in at Stallion? Maybe you should trade e-mail addresses so you can wage your little war 24/7.