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Scout: SMU the Most 3+ Stars Among All Non-P5 Teams

Postby Stallion » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:55 pm

BYU and SMU both have 10 although BYU has 2 4 stars and 8 3 stars
UH has 1 4 star and 8 3 stars

(Update: SMU now in lead with 11)
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Re: Scout: SMU Tied for Most 3+ Stars Among Non-P5 Teams

Postby mrydel » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:58 pm

Haven't the P5s given BYU P5 status as an opponent?
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Re: Scout: SMU Tied for Most 3+ Stars Among Non-P5 Teams

Postby SMU 86 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:10 pm

mrydel wrote:Haven't the P5s given BYU P5 status as an opponent?

That was just for the Big 10 games. Big 10 conference counts them as a P5 game.
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Re: Scout: SMU Tied for Most 3+ Stars Among Non-P5 Teams

Postby mrydel » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:15 pm

Thought at least the SEC did also but I could be mistaken.
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Re: Scout: SMU Tied for Most 3+ Stars Among Non-P5 Teams

Postby StallionsModelT » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:24 pm

Yeah but what about those epic June Jones three stars like Derek Longoria, Kolney Cassel, and Stephen Kaiser?!?!?!?! They were just as good!
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Re: Scout: SMU Tied for Most 3+ Stars Among Non-P5 Teams

Postby PoconoPony » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:35 pm

mrydel wrote:Haven't the P5s given BYU P5 status as an opponent?


Last spring the SEC essentially banned teams from scheduling BYU considering them an inferior program. Maybe the other P5 conferences recognize them, but not the SEC.
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Re: Scout: SMU Tied for Most 3+ Stars Among Non-P5 Teams

Postby lwjr » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:44 pm

PoconoPony wrote:
mrydel wrote:Haven't the P5s given BYU P5 status as an opponent?


Last spring the SEC essentially banned teams from scheduling BYU considering them an inferior program. Maybe the other P5 conferences recognize them, but not the SEC.

As guess they will add Memphis to the list now. lol
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Re: Scout: SMU Tied for Most 3+ Stars Among Non-P5 Teams

Postby mrydel » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:55 pm

March 19, 2015 the SEC announced Notre Dame, Army, and BYU would be considered as P5 opponents. This was to go with their edict that they play at least one P5 nonconference game every year.
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Re: Scout: SMU Tied for Most 3+ Stars Among Non-P5 Teams

Postby JasonB » Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:21 pm

Right now, just under half of our commitments on Scout are 3 star.

Houston has the 8 3s and a 4, but they also have a 5 which was left out in the discussion above, which is why their average is significantly higher than us. They also have only 17 commitments, so well over half their class is 3 stars.

Most of our conference mates have 10 fewer commitments than we do. So, some of them are above us in average, some below, but regardless their average will change dramatically before the end of recruiting, some up, some down.

There are 540 players left who haven't committed to a program who are 3+ stars, out of a total of 1611 players. So about a third are left. That's a little surprising to me how many are still on the market? My normal tendency would be to believe that most of the recruits picked up by conference mates the rest of the way would be 2 stars as they start to get the dregs of what is left. But 540 3+ star players remaining on the market is still a pretty hefty number for this late in the recruiting process.

It looks like we are headed in the right direction, but I wouldn't start talking it up too much just yet until everything plays out. This is a weird recruiting year, especially with UT and OU having so few commitments. They are going to cause a lot of churn everywhere in the last month, and that churn is going to trickle down and potentially hit us and Houston.
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