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Someone told me that there is only one analyst assigned for all of Texas. Is that true? Really would cause me to doubt their rankings.

Their rankings are bull. Go to Rankbyoffers.com

I am so pissed, I had my subscription on autopay, and it just re-upped for another year.
I called to cancel, and the guy says "I can cancel your Auto Pay, and you can enjoy your subscription til next January 8th, since payment has already processed... OR I can give you an extra 3 months free at the end, and you just have to cancel one month before the end or it will resubscribe you".

I said no thank you, THATS how i screwed up in the first place, so then I had to call you, so please JUST please CANCEL IT. He was friendly though, so there's that.

I hate wasting money.

I know, it is kind of frustrating. Still nice to get different perspectives from all of the sites though... and rivals does a halfway decent job of updating their offer numbers...

JasonB wrote:Someone told me that there is only one analyst assigned for all of Texas. Is that true? Really would cause me to doubt their rankings.

It is true and "not true."

On the one hand, there is one analyst who gives the final "Rivals" ranking. He makes the final call.

On the other hand, their other recruiting employees make rating recommendations and gather data. In close cases, the head analysts does the final rating.

Although not perfect, they do a pretty good job of finding the 4-5 star guys who get a lot of offers. Good HC's do their own ratings because their job depends on it.

The main "problem" area is 2 vs 3 stars. Because there aren't many "no stars" getting lots of offers (since June quit at least), they do a good job of finding the guys who are D1 players. But, just as NFL teams struggle with late round draft picks,Rivals (and Scout) struggles with separating the mass of 2-3 star players from each other. Of course, so do coaches.

Stars are a good first screen. Offer lists are a final validation or reason to question rankings.

Digetydog wrote:

JasonB wrote:Someone told me that there is only one analyst assigned for all of Texas. Is that true? Really would cause me to doubt their rankings.

It is true and "not true."

On the one hand, there is one analyst who gives the final "Rivals" ranking. He makes the final call.

On the other hand, their other recruiting employees make rating recommendations and gather data. In close cases, the head analysts does the final rating.

Although not perfect, they do a pretty good job of finding the 4-5 star guys who get a lot of offers. Good HC's do their own ratings because their job depends on it.

The main "problem" area is 2 vs 3 stars. Because there aren't many "no stars" getting lots of offers (since June quit at least), they do a good job of finding the guys who are D1 players. But, just as NFL teams struggle with late round draft picks,Rivals (and Scout) struggles with separating the mass of 2-3 star players from each other. Of course, so do coaches.

Stars are a good first screen. Offer lists are a final validation or reason to question rankings.

Right they have several. And no one knows whether they are accurate or inaccurate until they start playing college ball.

And this is not the year to look at rankings. This is the year to look at offer lists. Don't know why he keeps bringing up star rankings other than just to stir the pot.

Digetydog wrote:

JasonB wrote:Someone told me that there is only one analyst assigned for all of Texas. Is that true? Really would cause me to doubt their rankings.

It is true and "not true."

On the one hand, there is one analyst who gives the final "Rivals" ranking. He makes the final call.

On the other hand, their other recruiting employees make rating recommendations and gather data. In close cases, the head analysts does the final rating.

Although not perfect, they do a pretty good job of finding the 4-5 star guys who get a lot of offers. Good HC's do their own ratings because their job depends on it.

The main "problem" area is 2 vs 3 stars. Because there aren't many "no stars" getting lots of offers (since June quit at least), they do a good job of finding the guys who are D1 players. But, just as NFL teams struggle with late round draft picks,Rivals (and Scout) struggles with separating the mass of 2-3 star players from each other. Of course, so do coaches.

Stars are a good first screen. Offer lists are a final validation or reason to question rankings.

Thanks for the explanation!

The rivals ratings this year are bat [deleted] crazy. I've never seen it this bad. Stallion has pointed out for quite a while that rivals was way off this year, and it is proving true... I thought that the above might be something that explains why. I've never seen them rate players with multiple P5 offers so low.

Case in point - 2 weeks to go, and there are still 66 4 or 5 star players not committed. 270 3 stars.

That tells you there is a HUGE disparity between what coaches think and what rivals think. Normally I would agree with you about the 5 and 4 stars, but those numbers indicate that they aren't even getting those players right. Just trying to figure out why they are way more inaccurate this season compared to years past.

No that probably means more recruits probably won't qualify this year under higher admission standards

They do a pretty decent job for basketball, but a mostly terrible job for football, because they basically only watch the top recruits, and they up recruits' stars based on where they commit. We caught Rivals upping our former starting QB from a 2* to a 3* after Ohio State offered (thinking no way he turns down Ohio State for lowly Temple) and dropping him back down to a 2* after he reaffirmed his commitment to Temple. They did just up 5 of our recruits from a 2* to a 3*, but they also upped our formerly committed 2* recruit who flipped to Ohio State. Ohio State has had exactly 2 2* recruits in their last 6 classes, so there's no way they'd let them have a 3rd (I should point out they're both longsnappers)

JasonB wrote:

Digetydog wrote:

JasonB wrote:Someone told me that there is only one analyst assigned for all of Texas. Is that true? Really would cause me to doubt their rankings.

It is true and "not true."

On the one hand, there is one analyst who gives the final "Rivals" ranking. He makes the final call.

On the other hand, their other recruiting employees make rating recommendations and gather data. In close cases, the head analysts does the final rating.

Although not perfect, they do a pretty good job of finding the 4-5 star guys who get a lot of offers. Good HC's do their own ratings because their job depends on it.

The main "problem" area is 2 vs 3 stars. Because there aren't many "no stars" getting lots of offers (since June quit at least), they do a good job of finding the guys who are D1 players. But, just as NFL teams struggle with late round draft picks,Rivals (and Scout) struggles with separating the mass of 2-3 star players from each other. Of course, so do coaches.

Stars are a good first screen. Offer lists are a final validation or reason to question rankings.

Thanks for the explanation!

The rivals ratings this year are bat [deleted] crazy. I've never seen it this bad. Stallion has pointed out for quite a while that rivals was way off this year, and it is proving true... I thought that the above might be something that explains why. I've never seen them rate players with multiple P5 offers so low.

Case in point - 2 weeks to go, and there are still 66 4 or 5 star players not committed. 270 3 stars.

That tells you there is a HUGE disparity between what coaches think and what rivals think. Normally I would agree with you about the 5 and 4 stars, but those numbers indicate that they aren't even getting those players right. Just trying to figure out why they are way more inaccurate this season compared to years past.

I follow two schools: Texas and SMU
1) With Texas, everyone is a 3-star or better. As a result, I ignore the rankings and check to see who UT is fighting the recruit with.

2) With SMU, most of our recruits are in the 2-3 star category. In the Morris era, I know that our coaches are working hard and that virtually all of our players have legitimate interest from appropriate programs.

For the few players Morris signs up without a lot of other offers, they all pass the "eye test." For example, Joshua Shelmire is a big WR who needs to put on some weight and who will benefit from better coaching. Luckily, he has D1 WR speed: http://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/A ... ID=6238226.