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Re: SB Nation: SMU is thriving in spite of post-season ban

Postby LA_Mustang » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:33 pm

hoopmanx wrote:Got news, in a room full of LB, Turner and AD boy, LB carries the big stick. He's gonna say whatever he wants, whenever he wants to, which has actually been a criticism I've had for the guy. His NBA takes over the past several years, all while manning our helm, have been polarizing at best, moronic at worst. The day he was hired, he was tackling Michael Jordan in the media, and its basically never stopped. Whether he's poking the Sixers rebuild strategy or addressing advanced stats, he's not afraid.

You do your best to stop the bleeding and make sure you don't bottom out. Thats what SMU has done and these aren't 'up for debate' topics. Katz is trying to capture eyes and ears w/a good story brewing. He's smart enough to realize 90% of his listeners/readers have no idea the junior and frosh class would have transferred out. He knows this, but that doesn't make for a good story does it? Unless,of course, you have an axe to grind and want to say we sold out the seniors. We didn't, the NCAA did. If they made their decision, when a viable transfer was possible, the seniors could have played in the postseason somewhere. Instead, they were stuck here and we had to preserve the integrity of the roster/program moving forward.

This is about as well as it can be explained.
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Re: SB Nation: SMU is thriving in spite of post-season ban

Postby LA_Mustang » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:41 pm

Rebel10 wrote:Definitely need to improve on that when it is not a big game.

Really? We are only three years away from drawing 2,000 on a good night. Having 5,500 show up for a game against NH is not bad at all.
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Re: SB Nation: SMU is thriving in spite of post-season ban

Postby Puckhead48E » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:50 am

Rebel10 wrote:
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Rebel10 wrote:I agree with Katz on this one.

UConn got hit with sanction early enough for everyone to transfer but no one did.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/sport ... .html?_r=0


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Thanks. If you find a mass exodus after a ban where the players could leave please let me know.

Show me other teams getting these bans with highly ranked players in their final year. 4 teams who received similar pay season bands for academics this season are: Alcorn State (SWAC), Florida A&M (MEAC), Stetson (Atlantic Sun) and Central Arkansas (Southland). These four schools combined for a total of 19 wins last season. Who is going to leave when they already know their school isn't going to the post season anyway here.

The list from 2013 includes many similar schools. Most of the penalized universities, including 11 historically black institutions, have significantly more limited resources than top N.C.A.A. programs.

So, most applications of post season bans recently have been for APR violations and have involved schools without a winning tradition and lacking prominence.

Hard to find examples of successful non championship schools being banned...because that usually means P5 schools and we know they don't do this.

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Re: SB Nation: SMU is thriving in spite of post-season ban

Postby Rebel10 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:27 am

You did not have to limit your search to APR situations. It seems like whether they have had postseason promise like UConn or not, that mass exodus has not occurred in any type of post season ban in the history of the NCAA.
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Re: SB Nation: SMU is thriving in spite of post-season ban

Postby Rebel10 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:30 am

LA_Mustang wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:Definitely need to improve on that when it is not a big game.

Really? We are only three years away from drawing 2,000 on a good night. Having 5,500 show up for a game against NH is not bad at all.

Just echoing what Nic said. And announced attendance as in football and what you see might not be the same thing. Also, we are comparing ourselves to other schools not ourselves. Apparently NIc noticed something or he would not have made the comment.
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Re: SB Nation: SMU is thriving in spite of post-season ban

Postby CalallenStang » Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:04 am

Rebel10 wrote:You did not have to limit your search to APR situations. It seems like whether they have had postseason promise like UConn or not, that mass exodus has not occurred in any type of post season ban in the history of the NCAA.


What about at Penn State with the Sandusky situation?
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Re: SB Nation: SMU is thriving in spite of post-season ban

Postby Rebel10 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:09 am

CalallenStang wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:You did not have to limit your search to APR situations. It seems like whether they have had postseason promise like UConn or not, that mass exodus has not occurred in any type of post season ban in the history of the NCAA.


What about at Penn State with the Sandusky situation?

Yes, and it really wasn't a football mass exodus there either and they put together a pretty good recruiting class that included Christian Hackenberg. And they could not go to a bowl for more than just one year. But at any rate I was talking about basketball and I guess as far as basketball is concerned we'll see if there is a mass exodus and a bad recruiting class in the UNC situation because there has not been one to date.
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Re: SB Nation: SMU is thriving in spite of post-season ban

Postby HarvCrimYaleBlue » Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:41 am

Rebel10 wrote:
LA_Mustang wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:Definitely need to improve on that when it is not a big game.

Really? We are only three years away from drawing 2,000 on a good night. Having 5,500 show up for a game against NH is not bad at all.

Just echoing what Nic said. And announced attendance as in football and what you see might not be the same thing. Also, we are comparing ourselves to other schools not ourselves. Apparently NIc noticed something or he would not have made the comment.


While the crowd was better for Michigan I still saw lots of empty seats. Regardless of the number of bodies the energy level was night and day different. The student section was much more excited for Michigan versus say Yale. The energy and excitement is noticed by the players. When the crowd gets into it, the team gets into it.

There was a game late last season where we were trailing late in the game. All of the sudden the whole place stood up, got loud and willed the team to win the game. Huge momentum shifts are sometimes attributable to crowd interaction.

The team knows when people are being corpses.
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