Investigation Focus on Tubbs

[EastStang]

If a player landed in the coach's dog house, there would certainly be some incentive for a parent to make the coach look bad. I wonder which dog it might be?

[Hoop Fan]

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[Stallion]

Xtc I appreciate what you are saying and hopefully it is a minor violation but you are really compatmentilizing some of your statements. I also knew about the allowance for meal money which may be given by a university. No problem. But why would a relative of a player be involved in that at all. I'm sure SMU did give the standard meal money allowance and I bet they have that monitored quite closely-my concern is that surely you can see that meal money given above and beyond the standard allowance is nothing more than a financial incentive. Cash is cash no matter what you say its used for. I'd be very concerned if Tubbs was doling out cash for "meals" over and above the NCAA allowance. Some of the greatest scandals in which university officials have been implicated over the years at SMU(Dave Smith), Baylor, A&M, Tech, Arkansas have involved unmonitored cash contributions which were donated for a legal purpose like "summer camps", etc but used for something quite different. You can call it anything you want but if the evidence were to establish such a fund that is what is called in the game a "slush fund" not much different than Dave Smith handing out $50 bills for fumble recoveries or Interceptions.

[Hoop Fan]

lets hope this is handled in a direct and expedient manner. It worries me a little bit that we have a lame duck AD leading this process at the moment. What is the standard for proof here? If there is something proveable fine, if not, allegations are crap especially if there could be motivations at work.

There are no slush funds at SMU these days, that seems simply impossible.

[Corso]

Let's not throw anyone under any buses. Seems to me these are some serious suggestions being made without any evidence to support them. My hope is that somehow this proves to be one hellacious misunderstanding.

[Pony_Fan]

This is a message board, gimme a break.

[Hoop Fan]

yea, but whats the point of speculating on here? Its kind of silly and not really fair to individuals. Most all other message boards would remove that kind of anonymous speculation. Ponyfans is VERY tolerant.

[PonyPride]

In most cases, we try to be. In this case, I should have been quicker. If something is reported as fact, fine. But speculation of this nature that implicates SMU student-athletes and/or their families is reckless in nature, at best. Thanks for understanding.

[The XtC]

Stallion-
I understand what you are saying, and I do remember more than a few incidents where money from summer camps and other donations was not accounted for and it caused problems, most recently at Colorado. In my post I tried to be specific in regards to what I know, and what is my opinion. If it makes you feel better, the athletic department has interviewed the players, and it doesnt appear that anyone recieved any more than they were suppose to. The question now seems to be where did the money go, and was there any money to begin with?

I havent said that nothing happened, only that I need to see something more concrete. Right now I dont see anything to support the existence of a violation. I suppose it depends on where you put the burden of proof. As a legal professional, I'm sure you understand how hard it can be to prove a negative. How do you prove you didnt do anything improper with money you never had? Unless the acccuser wrote Coach Tubbs a check, there's no paper trail. Right now all I see is an accusation, with nothing to substantiate it. The story seems less than credible, and without something more than just the accusers word, I'm not ready to buy it.

[Danny Noonan]

This is a message board, gimme a break.

So its OK to accuse our players and their parents by name of committing an NCAA violation and conspiring to get our head coach fired? Seriously? With no evidence other than them not playing much?

Gimme a break is right.

[jtstang]

I think there was a second violater on the grassy knoll. For the money to have passed hands in the manner speculated here would require "magic" money.

[Danny Noonan]

I think there was a second violater on the grassy knoll. For the money to have passed hands in the manner speculated here would require "magic" money.

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[BUS]

Remember what the media does...

Repeat the lie enough and if will be taken at truth.

Eating people at the Super dome, rapes oh my. Has to true. they all say it.

I am with XTC, I need to see real evidence.

To close this, I hope this is a big nothing. Because I like SMU and want nothing to have happened.

Go Mustangs

[SMU Football Blog]

If you guessed Max and Matt Williams, you are a winner!!!

[SMUPhil]

Ok, so point us to what you know...