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Re: Our first "bad" loss of the season

Postby East Coast Mustang » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:32 pm

LA_Mustang wrote:Got to win two of our next three (Memphis, Temple, Cincinnati).

No excuse for losing to Temple. They're the worst team in the AAC. Should still be able to get 1 of 2 from Memphis and Cincy IMO
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Re: Our first "bad" loss of the season

Postby SMU Section F » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:37 pm

LA_Mustang wrote:Got to win two of our next three (Memphis, Temple, Cincinnati).

Don't know if we can manage it, but it does remind me of the 'silver lining': next three games are at Moody.

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Re: Our first "bad" loss of the season

Postby ojaipony » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:52 pm

It's ok. OBF is new to SMU sports. He'll get used to the disappointment or just give up on us eventually. :-)

I know that LB probably won't make excuses (a loss is a loss) but MK being off hurt us and wasn't he sick this week with a stomach thing? I know that that can really diminish your energy and then you throw classes/homework and flying on top of it. If that's the case, I'm kind of surprised we played him as much as we did. Everybody else kind of played like usual offensively anyway (it seemed - I haven't looked at the stat line yet).
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Re: Our first "bad" loss of the season

Postby OhioBrownFan » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:57 pm

ojaipony wrote:It's ok. OBF is new to SMU sports.

I know that LB probably won't make excuses (a loss is a loss) but MK being off hurt us and wasn't he sick this week with a stomach thing? I know that that can really diminish your energy and then you throw classes/homework and flying on top of it. If that's the case, I'm kind of surprised we played him as much as we did. Everybody else kind of played like usual offensively anyway (it seemed - I haven't looked at the stat line yet).


Well there was a day when SMU football fans wouldn't have accepted a loss to Arkansas...am I right? I just see black and white as an outsider, I see a good team that had a horrible night, lost to a bad team and it sucks. I'm nowhere near as big of fans as some on this board and it still stinks to watch. I really am in disbelief that they took that loss, complete loss for words.
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Re: Our first "bad" loss of the season

Postby ponyscott » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:07 am

Hey guys..that #24 recruiting class is talented and that 2 time conference coach of the year finally had them playing up to their potential. Their two bigs had good moves down low, made their shots and shot the gaps on rebounds as Marcus could have used some help down there and he simply got outplayed. USF played well together, shot well and yes SMU didn't play their best tonight but that USF team looked good tonight and their schedule was tougher in the beginning and ours is tough late...they arent as bad as their record IMHO.
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Re: Our first "bad" loss of the season

Postby ojaipony » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:08 am

OhioBrownFan wrote:
ojaipony wrote:It's ok. OBF is new to SMU sports.

I know that LB probably won't make excuses (a loss is a loss) but MK being off hurt us and wasn't he sick this week with a stomach thing? I know that that can really diminish your energy and then you throw classes/homework and flying on top of it. If that's the case, I'm kind of surprised we played him as much as we did. Everybody else kind of played like usual offensively anyway (it seemed - I haven't looked at the stat line yet).


Well there was a day when SMU football fans wouldn't have accepted a loss to Arkansas...am I right? I just see black and white as an outsider, I see a good team that had a horrible night, lost to a bad team and it sucks. I'm nowhere near as big of fans as some on this board and it still stinks to watch. I really am in disbelief that they took that loss, complete loss for words.


I understand. Glad to have you as a fan and love your posts.

After looking at the stats, the other "no shows" on offense were Cannen and Sterling to a lesser degree (Sterling doesn't really put up many points, but Cannen gets 4-5 and Markus gets his 15 we win even with the sloppy play). It seems Cannen never got off the plane. I hate to admit it, but this one is on the coaching. You can't let your guys play like that. Look at how Coach K EXPLODED on his team the other night (he also has been known to bench the entire 5 and swap out the bench warmers just to prove a point) . . . LB seemed a little JJ-esque tonight I dare to say (from a motivational point of view) . . . wow, I can't believe I just said that. Ok, the pony gods are going to strike me down now and I'd deserve it.
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Re: Our first "bad" loss of the season

Postby SMU Section F » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:16 am

I think the real "no show" was interior defense in general. Plus an overall lack of effort.

The only coaching 'decision' I question is pulling Nic Moore when he was getting amped up. I understand why Larry did it, Nic seemed to be on the verge of going from motivated to reckless and he already had a technical, but on a night where the rest of the team was so flat maybe that energy shouldn't have been tempered...

But go ahead and ignore that last sentence. I hate when internet "yahoos" second guess things like that.
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Re: Our first "bad" loss of the season

Postby ojaipony » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:25 am

SMU Section F wrote:I think the real "no show" was interior defense in general. Plus an overall lack of effort.

The only coaching 'decision' I question is pulling Nic Moore when he was getting amped up. I understand why Larry did it, Nic seemed to be on the verge of going from motivated to reckless and he already had a technical, but on a night where the rest of the team was so flat maybe that energy shouldn't have been tempered...

But go ahead and ignore that last sentence. I hate when internet "yahoos" second guess things like that.


I agree (your last two sentences). :-)

If MK was truly sick (or just tired from being sick) and that led to the sloppy play (TOs and interior D) then why not give him more of a blow and play Cannen more? (of course, that would require Cannen to actually play hard).

I just love how "basketball geniuses" who've never played much less coached, criticize a hall of famer anonymously on an internet discussion board (talking about me). :-)
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Re: Our first "bad" loss of the season

Postby SMU Section F » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:33 am

ojaipony wrote:I just love how "basketball geniuses" who've never played much less coached, criticize a hall of famer anonymously on an internet discussion board (talking about me). :-)

Well, in all fairness to us, that does seem to be what internet message boards were made for.
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Re: Our first "bad" loss of the season

Postby PonySnob » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:42 am

ojaipony wrote:
SMU Section F wrote:I think the real "no show" was interior defense in general. Plus an overall lack of effort.

The only coaching 'decision' I question is pulling Nic Moore when he was getting amped up. I understand why Larry did it, Nic seemed to be on the verge of going from motivated to reckless and he already had a technical, but on a night where the rest of the team was so flat maybe that energy shouldn't have been tempered...

But go ahead and ignore that last sentence. I hate when internet "yahoos" second guess things like that.


I agree (your last two sentences). :-)

If MK was truly sick (or just tired from being sick) and that led to the sloppy play (TOs and interior D) then why not give him more of a blow and play Cannen more? (of course, that would require Cannen to actually play hard).

I just love how "basketball geniuses" who've never played much less coached, criticize a hall of famer anonymously on an internet discussion board (talking about me). :-)


LB didn't didn't like being congratulated for "close" losses so there shouldn't any problem with criticism when the team plays like poo poo.........it is what happens at Kansas and UCLA which he brings up quite often.


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Re: Our first "bad" loss of the season

Postby feelthehorsepower » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:45 am

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Re: Our first "bad" loss of the season

Postby OhioBrownFan » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:56 am

SMU Section F wrote:I think the real "no show" was interior defense in general. Plus an overall lack of effort.

The only coaching 'decision' I question is pulling Nic Moore when he was getting amped up. I understand why Larry did it, Nic seemed to be on the verge of going from motivated to reckless and he already had a technical, but on a night where the rest of the team was so flat maybe that energy shouldn't have been tempered...

But go ahead and ignore that last sentence. I hate when internet "yahoos" second guess things like that.


I completely agree. I think he was out-coached tonight and not from an X's and O's standpoint. Team was not ready and that was not very bright to bring Moore out in that situation. The team desperately needed a spark and he extinguished that one before a fire ever got going. There's very few energy guys on the bench to feed off of on this team imo and someone needed to wake them up.
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