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Re: So it's official now?

Postby EconPony'10 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:04 pm

There are all kinds of different situations however we don't really know any facts about anything at this point. To me it looks like MK and KF are seemingly good kids and at least stay out of trouble. That being said, if their only crime is sucking at school then SMU is somewhat to blame for that.
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Re: So it's official now?

Postby Stallion » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:29 pm

TCU has had about 5-6 starting football players flunk out in the last 5 years-and I'm not talking about kids involved in the drug/criminal investigations. Its so bad they are on an APR cliff
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Re: So it's official now?

Postby SMU2007 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:33 pm

JasonB wrote:
SMU2007 wrote:
mrydel wrote:That is the question. Is KF ineligible because of grades at SMU, or is it due to Kimball?


That's what I don't understand. And it's not clear onthe pay sites either


That's because anyone who actually knows isn't allowed to say anything to anyone by letter of the law. So it is a good thing that there is no clarity anywhere, because it means people are following the rules and SMU won't get into even more trouble.


That's bullsh. We knew Markus was an issue at smu. Not sure why this has to be so nebulous, at least behind paywall
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Re: So it's official now?

Postby ponyte » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:55 pm

Not having all the facts this is pure speculation. And academic issue rest at SMU. THe NCAA has no investigative authority with the issue at the DISD and Kimbell. The Ncaa is total at the mercy of any official investigation and any information that is made public. Since the DISD and Kimbell investigation is ongoing, one would suspect the NCAA has as little infomration as we here on PF have.

That said, the NCAA has made significant dicispline decisions in the past wth nothing more than speculation (Robert Parrish at Centenary College comes to mind).

One would hope if this is a SMU issue, that SMU steps up and does all it can to help Keith in academics and become eligible for next season.
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Re: So it's official now?

Postby Comet » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:31 pm

funkerfest wrote:Dear SMU:
I have no idea why you keep kneecapping yourself when it comes to the success of the basketball team. First MK was ineligible and now Frazier? Maybe we should be blaming these professors (who I'm sure are feeling pretty powerful) for not being good enough educators to keep them eligible. Maybe we should put the professors (who apparently cannot teach) on probation and dock their salaries during that period until they can get the players eligible.

This is infuriating. Who can we email/call about this to voice our anger?

Is this a joke? This sounds like the butthurt parents of a student who doesn't do his due deligience at school and would rather blame the teachers than themselves. TONS of SMU athletes without these issues.
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Re: So it's official now?

Postby ponypatrick » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:44 pm

MustangStealth wrote:
funkerfest wrote:Dear SMU:
I have no idea why you keep kneecapping yourself when it comes to the success of the basketball team. First MK was ineligible and now Frazier? Maybe we should be blaming these professors (who I'm sure are feeling pretty powerful) for not being good enough educators to keep them eligible. Maybe we should put the professors (who apparently cannot teach) on probation and dock their salaries during that period until they can get the players eligible.

This is infuriating. Who can we email/call about this to voice our anger?


Keith Frazier?



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Re: So it's official now?

Postby funkerfest » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:57 pm

Comet wrote:
funkerfest wrote:Dear SMU:
I have no idea why you keep kneecapping yourself when it comes to the success of the basketball team. First MK was ineligible and now Frazier? Maybe we should be blaming these professors (who I'm sure are feeling pretty powerful) for not being good enough educators to keep them eligible. Maybe we should put the professors (who apparently cannot teach) on probation and dock their salaries during that period until they can get the players eligible.

This is infuriating. Who can we email/call about this to voice our anger?

Is this a joke? This sounds like the butthurt parents of a student who doesn't do his due deligience at school and would rather blame the teachers than themselves. TONS of SMU athletes without these issues.


My only mistake in that post is that I weighed in without all the facts--and apparently we will probably never get them. I agree that personal responsibility is paramount. However, I think when the school thinks that they are somehow increasing their academic integrity by beating up on athletes, you will probably see less quality athletes going to your school. There are some seriously stupid college athletes that are allowed to play and that are not ineligible due to academics--just wondering how that can happen. Some of this just makes me think that professors are making examples out of some of these players.

(Sweet job on spelling diligence--did you graduate from SMU? You should be on academic probation from this message board.)
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Re: So it's official now?

Postby mustangxc » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:43 pm

Based on the latest report on ESPN.com it is pretty clear to me that the SMU administration is not to blame and it is fairly evident that Keith has the SMU GPA to be eligible but is having to sit out because of his HS transcript. Once again, the NCAA is out to get SMU while delaying investigations at traditional powerhouses.
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