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Postby DickerJames » Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:19 am

That and the fact that mid-majors have far fewer players leaving early for the pros, so many of them have rosters loaded with juniors and seniors, whereas a bunch of the "big" programs have some one-and-dones.


I think you have been listening to the power conference propoganda. Bobby Cremins(sp?) was on the radio Sun. nite going on and on about how the ACC schools lose their players to the NBA and the mid majors don't, therefore they have the experience advantage and that explains how 5 middies are in the sweet 16. That is total B S. Give me players with NBA talent any day. Seriously, if this is such a handicap then why are these guys fought over begged and bribed. The experience factor certainly hasn't taken us to the dance. Also, how do you explain #1 seed Memphis with 1 senior and the rest freshmen and sophomores.
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Postby EastStang » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:11 pm

GW has a relatively nice gym (the Smith Center) built in the 1980's I believe. George Mason has the Patriot Center built in the 1980's. Its a very nice facility which is impossible to get to for a 7 p.m. start. I don't know about the other schools facilities. The Washington Post has been snooping about and did an expose on the lack of academic muscle of Hobbs' recruits. George Mason is a state school that pretty much can admit any juco graduate and transfer basically any hours.
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Postby MFFL02 » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:48 pm

[quote="DiamondM"]Okay, I'll admit to confusion on this one: "prep school" = junior college???? Like Oak Hill Academy? Where Bamba Fall came from?

Oak Hill is not a prep school. It is a boarding school and it is just like any other high school, 4 years then you graduate.
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Postby MFFL02 » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:50 pm

EastStang wrote:GW has a relatively nice gym (the Smith Center) built in the 1980's I believe. George Mason has the Patriot Center built in the 1980's. Its a very nice facility which is impossible to get to for a 7 p.m. start. I don't know about the other schools facilities. .


The Dean Dome and Cameron Indoor Stadium are dumps! I have been to both of them. Yet Duke and UNC still have amazing basketball programs....you figure it out.
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Postby Hoop Fan » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:52 pm

MFFL02 wrote:
EastStang wrote:GW has a relatively nice gym (the Smith Center) built in the 1980's I believe. George Mason has the Patriot Center built in the 1980's. Its a very nice facility which is impossible to get to for a 7 p.m. start. I don't know about the other schools facilities. .


The Dean Dome and Cameron Indoor Stadium are dumps! I have been to both of them. Yet Duke and UNC still have amazing basketball programs....you figure it out.


c'mon you are losing credibility fast with that type of statement. They've put alot of money into Cameron. No money has gone into Moody. Dean Dome is only 23 years old, not 55 years old.
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Postby EastStang » Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:14 pm

Until U of Maryland built the Comcast Center, the Patriot Center was the best college arena in the DC (transportation not included). Now Georgetown plays some of its home games in McDonough Gym and practices there can we say extreme dump. It plays all of its conference games at the Verizon Center. Probably the school most like SMU is Georgetown. Its preppy, its loaded with rich white kids and yet lots of great players go there. The difference was that John Thompson coached there. And now JT III coaches there. The old man at 6'10" tall would walk into a high school gym and you knew he was there because you couldn't miss him. I guess Jimmy T needs to buy some heel inserts.
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Postby PonyPride » Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:37 pm

MFFL02 wrote: .... Oak Hill is not a prep school. It is a boarding school and it is just like any other high school, 4 years then you graduate.
Perhaps part of the problem is the differing definitions of "prep school." I always thought of it as a private high school that involves tuition being paid, and often involves students boarding in dormitories. There are countless schools like that in the east: The Hill School (near Philly), Blair Academy (N.J.), Taft Academy (Conn.), Mercersburg Academy (Penn.), Andover, Exeter, etc. -- Lots of them. The common misperception, I believe, is that some believe a prep school automatically means an extra (13th) year of school. Not true -- each of the schools mentioned above offer a post-graduate year (for students from other schools), but that represents fewer than 25 percent of the graduates at most.
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Postby Stampede » Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:47 pm

So. Ill has a new multi-purpose and multi-million $$$ athletic facility for basketball and other sports to share. So one can take them off the list.
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Postby Stallion » Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:21 pm

Geez-in 2006-especially on the East Coast where there are few JC/CC a team such as George Washington with 7 Prep players is more than a hint. By checking on the George Washington website and cross referencing with Rivals its quite easy to see that each and everyone of those kids were marginal Division 1A students and most in fact were forced to go the Prep route to qualify.
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Postby Stallion » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:20 pm

in fact-SURPRISE SURPRISE-George Washington was one of the schools specifically mentioned in the recent Washington Post articles about players attending Prep factories which don't have real curiculm or faculties. The Post specifically mentioned George Washington's recruitment of Omar Williams and Maureece Rice who attended Lutheran Christian Academy one of the primary targets of the investigation and scandal. Even more shocking is check out the number of Tier 1, Tier 2 and other Division 1A schools which have either offered or signed players from this sham school in recent years-Gonzaga, Rice, Michigan, UTEP, Columbia, Washington St., George Washington, Jacksonville, Georgetown, Mississippi St., Massachusetts, Temple among others. Enjoy the education...
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Postby abezontar » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:39 pm

geez dude don't have a heart attack...
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Postby EastStang » Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:38 am

Prep Schools used to be the province of the Military Academies. If you had a kid with bad HS grades, he would go to a place like Fork Union Military Academy, get his grades and scores up, go to Ohio State and win a Heisman. Now with HS players having to go to one year of college before going to the NBA, there is demand for some of these diploma factories. I guess our admissions office is on top of this because we don't seem to get those players. Oak Hill is a fine boarding school in the middle of the Great Dismal Swamp of Virginia. Kids have no choice but to play basketball and study or they end up snake bait.
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