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Postby jokerswild » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:22 pm

Josh Pastner from Arizona would be an inspired hire. This guy helped to run Houston Hoops AAU program while in high school. He was offered D1 assistant jobs when graduating high school and instead went to Zona on a basketball scholarship (unbelievably smart move by Olson, who got a coach without the NCAA regulations attached) when he became the fastest Arizona player (in any sport) in history to receive his degree and got his masters while still playing. He is the second assitant at the ripe old age of like 28 and happened to win a national title. This would be a genius move because he has ties to Texas, but instead we will get some coaching retread. Here is his bio

http://www.arizonaathletics.com/ViewArt ... EASON=2004
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Postby Hoop Fan » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:25 pm

think about what you are saying Joker. Pastner is obviously to smart to come here. You said it yourself, the kid has smarts.
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Postby McClown27 » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:27 pm

Hoop Fan wrote:think about what you are saying Joker. Pastner is obviously to smart to come here.


This is an exciting time. Take your tired arguments about facilities to the alternative sports board.
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Postby Hoop Fan » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:28 pm

McClown27 wrote:
Hoop Fan wrote:think about what you are saying Joker. Pastner is obviously to smart to come here.


This is an exciting time. Take your tired arguments about facilities to the alternative sports board.


real exciting time. Do you have split personality disorder? Just last night you didnt think it was fair what was happening to Tubbs.
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Postby EastStang » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:29 pm

Until we know the real reason why JT is being shown the door, we realistically won't know what kind of coach we're going to get. If he is being shown the door because in reality he was a poor choice (not my description) and we're cutting our losses, then we won't get any seriously strong names because no one wants to come for two years and be looking at being fired especially with the "athletic model" issues that we have. If he really did something bad NCAA wise, then we might get better candidates just like Baylor got Drew after the Bliss, Dodson, fiasco because well we should fire a coach if he is breaking rules. Under a force out scenario without serious NCAA violations, we'll be lucky to get any of the names on this string. More likely we'll get untested 2nd chair assistant coaches who are desperate for a head coaching job, any head coaching job. If the allegations are substantial, then we might have a shot at those above. I might add Jeff Jones (another UVA ex-coach) who has done a decent job at American. The UNC-W coach (I forget his name). The Hofstra coach (I forget his name, too). Those are some possible candidates that I think have developed good programs.
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Postby DallasDiehard » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:30 pm

Don't get me wrong - I'd love it if Carlesimo got hired. But when your thread title included the word "constructive" I assumed that it also meant these candidates. If you can get P.J. on the horn, give him President Turner's home number. I just don't think he'd even answer the phone. But if you can get him or Chuck Daly or Red Auerbach to take the job, that's great. I like Coach Carlesimo and would welcome him with open arms. Hell, I'll drive to the airport to pick him up. There's just no way, as far as I can see.

My early vote goes to Pastnor.
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Postby EastStang » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:31 pm

Heck, I'd offer him a virgin freshman (if there are any) to come here.
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Postby jokerswild » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:34 pm

[quote="EastStang"]The UNC-W coach (I forget his name). The Hofstra coach (I forget his name, too). Those are some possible candidates that I think have developed good programs.[/quote]

The Hofstra coach is Tom Pecora and he just got a new extension after being courted by Seton Hall. UNC-W is looking at a new coach because there's left for Wright St. because he hated his AD. You dont leave UNC-W for Wright St. with a tourney team returning and a good recruting class unless their are personal and money issues and that was the rumor. he would have been perfect too (his name is Brad Brownell) because he wanted out.
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Postby jtstang » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:50 pm

Hoop Fan wrote:
McClown27 wrote:
Hoop Fan wrote:think about what you are saying Joker. Pastner is obviously to smart to come here.


This is an exciting time. Take your tired arguments about facilities to the alternative sports board.


real exciting time. Do you have split personality disorder? Just last night you didnt think it was fair what was happening to Tubbs.

That guy's an idiot who thinks the reason SMU doesn't do well is because the Morning News puts us on page 7 of the sports page where we belong. Just ignore him.
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Ronnie Arrow

Postby CalallenStang » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:57 pm

I'll throw this name out there...

Ronnie Arrow - Texas A&M Corpus Christi
7 years, 108-84 record
Started the program from scratch, now the team plays in a brand-new arena.
2 consecutive 20 win seasons
Wins over programs like TCU, Florida State, Baylor, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, etc. etc.
This past season included close calls @ Missouri, @ Tulsa, and @ Houston
Prior to coming to A&M-CC, he led South Alabama to the 1989 NCAA Second Round and the 1991 NCAA First Round. 1989: Finished the season ranked #24 in the nation.
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Re: Ronnie Arrow

Postby Dement-ed » Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:13 pm

CalallenStang wrote:I'll throw this name out there...

Ronnie Arrow - Texas A&M Corpus Christi
7 years, 108-84 record
Started the program from scratch, now the team plays in a brand-new arena.
2 consecutive 20 win seasons
Wins over programs like TCU, Florida State, Baylor, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, etc. etc.
This past season included close calls @ Missouri, @ Tulsa, and @ Houston
Prior to coming to A&M-CC, he led South Alabama to the 1989 NCAA Second Round and the 1991 NCAA First Round. 1989: Finished the season ranked #24 in the nation.
Didn't he have three seven-footers on the team? That can make a lot of folks better coaches. I'm not saying this guy can't coach -- maybe he can. But it sounds like he had some nice pieces in place to have some success.
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Re: Ronnie Arrow

Postby CalallenStang » Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:17 pm

Dement-ed wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:I'll throw this name out there...

Ronnie Arrow - Texas A&M Corpus Christi
7 years, 108-84 record
Started the program from scratch, now the team plays in a brand-new arena.
2 consecutive 20 win seasons
Wins over programs like TCU, Florida State, Baylor, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, etc. etc.
This past season included close calls @ Missouri, @ Tulsa, and @ Houston
Prior to coming to A&M-CC, he led South Alabama to the 1989 NCAA Second Round and the 1991 NCAA First Round. 1989: Finished the season ranked #24 in the nation.
Didn't he have three seven-footers on the team? That can make a lot of folks better coaches. I'm not saying this guy can't coach -- maybe he can. But it sounds like he had some nice pieces in place to have some success.


One 7-2 guy and one 7-0. The 7-2 guy almost never saw the floor...overweight. Kid was from Plano. Daniels (listed at 7-0) was probably more like 6-10. Carl Nelson (listed at 6-10) was more like 6-9. Now I was comparing them to people who may have been listed incorrectly, from about the 5th row, so I may have this wrong and they may all be legit 7 footers. But if they were, that's a tribute to his recruiting abilities.
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Postby McClown27 » Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:20 pm

jtstang wrote:
Hoop Fan wrote:
McClown27 wrote:
Hoop Fan wrote:think about what you are saying Joker. Pastner is obviously to smart to come here.


This is an exciting time. Take your tired arguments about facilities to the alternative sports board.


real exciting time. Do you have split personality disorder? Just last night you didnt think it was fair what was happening to Tubbs.

That guy's an idiot who thinks the reason SMU doesn't do well is because the Morning News puts us on page 7 of the sports page where we belong. Just ignore him.


All you basketball apologists crack me up. Let's keep a really mediocre coach around but then try to sell $25-50 million worth of facility improvements to the alumni, faculty Senate, and the fans. Sometimes y'all are just too much.
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This is a hire to try to sell those improvement Turner wants done. 1,000 people at Moody isn't gonna get them built.
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Postby Ponymon » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:35 pm

How about Anderson from UA, ooooops, Missouri! I'm sure that he will want out of his new contract now that this "more desirable" opportunity has opened up!
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Postby RGV Pony » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:20 pm

Paul Westphal.

Former OU assistant and UTPA Head Coach Bob Hoffman.

Maybe Orsini can lure Digger Phelps out of retirement.

Which Daugherty was it that was at Notre Dame (successful) and UNC (less so)?
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