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this year's teamModerators: PonyPride, SmooPower
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I think that the odds of Bamba, Dia, and Malone all being double digit scorers this season are pretty strong. If the starting PG is Williams, who averaged 19 ppg in JUCO, you may have a 4th starter averaging double digits. Not every guy in your starting 5 needs to be or should be a scoring machine.
and if a guy with the footspeed of Harp is truly our best perimeter defender on a D-1 team, we aren't gonna beat many people.
Hoop, you follow the team pretty closely and see a great number of games in person. In my opinion, our best belly-up perimiter defender was Harp last season, with D-Rob a close second. Would you not agree?
I get your point, but I don't think any of our guys come close to being scoring machines. Dia is the only one who has bigtime scoring ability, and to be a successful PF you usually have to have a perimeter player who can draw the defense out of the lane.
No one said he's not a gifted athlete. I think all division 1 athletes are gifted, but I never saw unusual quickness or leaping ability out of Harp in our games last year. In fact, I can only remember a handful of times that he took the ball to the hole....and I never saw him finish with a dunk. Usually players with quickness and leaping ability get a few dunks during the course of a season.
that's all just a confidence issue, ryan harp can definitely dunk with ease and take the ball to the hole. You didn't see him do much else either as far as shooting and you don't question his shooting ability. As you watch his confidence increase, you will see more of the athlete he is.
Again, I'm sure Ryan could do those things in HS......I just never saw him show the ability to do that at the college level last season. I hope as much as anyone that Ryan steps up this season because this team desperately needs someone who can attack the basket and finish.
Bruce Bowen. Spurs legacy. 'Nuff said. he starts over Manu at the wing spot, and it seems to work pretty well.
Great comparison.........but I think the Spurs are able to get away with that because they have one of the greatest PFs in NBA history and one of the best scoring PGs in the NBA on the floor with Bowen.
Harp is a heady player who we need to come in and hit 3's. He is not blessed with the foot quickness and ball handling skills necessary to excel at the college level. But he can be a 10-12 minute contributor. I have heard he has worked very hard this summer which is good for both he and the team.
I would like to pose a different way to look at the topic of discussion. We are looking at this right now from a standpoint of do we have enough scorers in our starting line-up? We also need to recognize that the opponent’s best scorers are in their starting line-up and we must defend them.
Dia has the body to be a very good defender but was lazy at times last year. Malone, I think will be the wing scorer we are looking for, but preformed very poorly on D last year (one reason his PT was so inconsistent). I am all for having a 2-guard capable of scoring, whoever it may be, but that player CANNOT be a weak defender if you also plan to start Dia and Malone. Of course, I have yet to see them play this year and they may have made great strides defensively. With their athleticism there is no reason they could not both be great defenders. The reasons I think Harp fits well in the starting line-up are: - his D and hustle are great - IF he finds his shot again he can spread the floor for us and stretch the D - you already have your best scorers on the floor so its okay if one guy is not a shot creator I haven't seen Haynes play other than a youtube video in which his team was playing a very inferior opponent. If he brings the abilities above and then some, even better. But, of the players I've seen first hand, Harp is the most logical to start at the 2.
You make some good points, Icon. My biggest concern with Dia is his focus. There were times last year when he completely disappeared. I’ll chalk that up to being a freshman. Hopefully this year he stays focused and plays hard for 40 minutes a game. Malone did get pushed around on the defensive end at times last season. I know he has a very thin body but that shouldn’t keep him from playing good d – example Tayshaun Prince. I am really looking forward to what Haynes can bring to the table.
[quote="LA_Mustang"][quote="StangBry"]ryan harp can definitely dunk with ease and take the ball to the hole.[/quote]
Again, I'm sure Ryan could do those things in HS......I just never saw him show the ability to do that at the college level last season. I hope as much as anyone that Ryan steps up this season because this team desperately needs someone who can attack the basket and finish.[/quote] first of all dunking isn't something you lose in 1 year unless youve gained a lot of weight or had an injury, harp has done neither. and yeah i hope he steps up too thats what im saying, its a confidence issue not an ability issue. please looks past the white skin and stop questioning ryan harps athletic ability, he has been blessed with great quickness/leaping ability/body for the 2 spot. once he stops hesitating (hopefully he does) i hope you can see him put it all together and combine it with his shot and heady play.
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