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Re: This could get ugly

Postby The XtC » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:54 pm

The PonyGrad wrote:Our swing of winnable games seems over. What happened to Tulane on the road? Weren't we suposed to have a H/H with them?

Looks like we may not win more that 2 more games this season.

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No h/h with Tulane. We play every team on the west side of the conference twice, except one. We play every team on the east side once, except one. We play Tulane once and Memphis twice. Tulane plays East Carolina twice. Houston and Tulsa play each other once, Houston plays UCF twice and Tulsa plays Marshall twice, etc., etc.

I said before that we got the soft part of the conference schedule first. UTEP, Marshall, ECU, Tulane, SMU and Rice are currently the bottom half of the conference standings (SMU and Rice tied at 1-4 each). Memphis is in first, then Houston, and USM, UCF, Tulsa and UAB all tied for 3rd place. Now we play the top half, mostly home and home, but UCF, UAB, and UTEP on the road. USM and Rice at home.
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Postby The XtC » Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:46 am

fivemon wrote:on a slightly positive note, it looks as though apb is now 5-2 in their conference, so atleast that loss is only slightly as ambarassing


the SWAC is Division 1 in name only, it's a non-competitive league. Teams from the Southland conference schedule SWAC teams to get a guaranteed victory. It's embarrassing to ever lose to a SWAC team, and we've lost to 3 in the past 2 seasons.

Look at the scores of APB's other non-conference games. 30 point blowouts. Look at the non-conference scores for Prairie View and Mississippie Valley State. Look at the RPI rankings for the entire conference. I really dont care that any team from the SWAC is 5-2, when 2 pointless teams play, 1 has to "win".

The highest RPI in the SWAC right now belongs to Jackson State, they're #237. They're also one of the few SWAC teams to win a non-conference game this year. They beat NC Central, who is 1-20 for the season.
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Postby The XtC » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:00 am

tristatecoog wrote:How about best win during Doherty's regime?


Dayton, in 2007. If I remember correctly, Dayton finished 19-12 that year and went to the NIT. Also beat UAB in Birmingham that year, but that was the season all their transfers were sitting out, they werent as strong as they are now.

UTEP was the best team we beat last season, an NIT team. They were a terrible road team, though, went winless on the road in conference play.

This year, A&M-CC is far and away our best win, a real upset. YOu may laugh, but the Islanders have the best RPI of any of the teams we beat this year, and they did upset Georgia earlier in the season. Beating them was a surprise, and the margin of victory really makes that game the peak of this years performance.


Someone else mentioned Colorado, but in all honesty the only thing they have going for them is membership in the Big 12, they have name recognition but nothing behind it. CU is #236 in the RPI, last place in the Big 12 and before they played us they were blown out by Vermont. When you get past the name, it's not much of an accomplishment to beat the Buffalo's this year.
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Postby FriscoPMG » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:57 am

SoCal_Pony wrote:The last quality win I can recall was at Purdue about 5 years ago.

At the time the Boilermakers were a Top 15??? team in the nation.


Purdue had just defeated Duke (up in Alaska I believe) so they slid into the Top 25 right before hosting their own tournament, which SMU went up and won.
That particular season started out fairly well before the team quit on Dement and eventually got him fired. My how the non-conference schedule has devolved since then...
Tech, Baylor, Wake Forest, Purdue and OK State all within a month's time.

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Postby ClickClack » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:05 am

Best win I can remember (only been a fan for 5 years)...was the win at home against Tex Tech. Bobby Knight coached team with Andre Emmet...they were top 25 at the time.
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Postby CA Mustang » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:09 am

The XtC wrote:Someone else mentioned Colorado, but in all honesty the only thing they have going for them is membership in the Big 12, they have name recognition but nothing behind it. CU is #236 in the RPI, last place in the Big 12 and before they played us they were blown out by Vermont.

Colorado beat Iowa State last night, so now they are in a four-way tie for last place in the Big 12. :wink:
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Postby MustangIcon » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:13 am

SoCal_Pony wrote:
The last quality win I can recall was at Purdue about 5 years ago.

At the time the Boilermakers were a Top 15??? team in the nation.


Purdue had just defeated Duke (up in Alaska I believe) so they slid into the Top 25 right before hosting their own tournament, which SMU went up and won.
That particular season started out fairly well before the team quit on Dement and eventually got him fired. My how the non-conference schedule has devolved since then...
Tech, Baylor, Wake Forest, Purdue and OK State all within a month's time.

We also beat Texas Tech at home that year. Played Wake Forrest and a young Chris Paul very tough at home (watched that one from the baseline couch). That was in my opinion, a very good WAC team that greatly underacheived.

Part of the reason I was so unimpressed with Tubbs' first season is the team he inherrited. Simpson, Castro, Isham as Seniors, 2 of which started all 4 years. B-Hop as a Junior coming of an 18ppg season as a Soph. Pearson was a Soph., Rack a Junior, and Derrick Roberts was coming in as a Freshman, who averaged almost double digits in league play. Granted, it wasn't a deep team but they had a great forst 6 and it should have been much improved from the season before. I remember we got shelled at Lubbock by maybe 35-40 points, took whippings from TCU and OSU (although OSU whipped us the season before too), and got whipped in our first round tourney game versus Rice. I do remeber we beat Baylor by 30+ that year. Of course they were in a shambles and now look at where they are.
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Postby CA Mustang » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:17 am

FriscoPMG wrote:That particular season started out fairly well before the team quit on Dement and eventually got him fired.

They were 7-4 before the slide began. The 0-3 start in conference was bad enough, but blowout losses doomed him. (40 @ Rice!?!, 35 vs. OSU, 39 @ Boise State and 26 @ UTEP).

A 40 point loss to Rice should be grounds for immediate termination.
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Postby indianmustang » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:37 am

i think the tech win the best in last 5 years
i was there sitting in student section
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Postby The XtC » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:26 pm

ClickClack wrote:Best win I can remember (only been a fan for 5 years)...was the win at home against Tex Tech. Bobby Knight coached team with Andre Emmet...they were top 25 at the time.


No they werent. Tech didn't break into the rankings until February, 2 months after that game.

Purdue was ranked 17th, when we beat them.
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Postby The XtC » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:32 pm

CA Mustang wrote:
The XtC wrote:Someone else mentioned Colorado, but in all honesty the only thing they have going for them is membership in the Big 12, they have name recognition but nothing behind it. CU is #236 in the RPI, last place in the Big 12 and before they played us they were blown out by Vermont.

Colorado beat Iowa State last night, so now they are in a four-way tie for last place in the Big 12. :wink:


Congrats to the Buffs on their first conference win. Now they're tied with A&M.
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Postby MustangIcon » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:42 pm

The XtC wrote:
ClickClack wrote:Best win I can remember (only been a fan for 5 years)...was the win at home against Tex Tech. Bobby Knight coached team with Andre Emmet...they were top 25 at the time.


No they werent. Tech didn't break into the rankings until February, 2 months after that game.

Purdue was ranked 17th, when we beat them.


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Postby WildBillPony » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:21 pm

MustangIcon wrote:
The XtC wrote:
ClickClack wrote:Best win I can remember (only been a fan for 5 years)...was the win at home against Tex Tech. Bobby Knight coached team with Andre Emmet...they were top 25 at the time.


No they werent. Tech didn't break into the rankings until February, 2 months after that game.

Purdue was ranked 17th, when we beat them.


Correct sir.


No matter....beating Tech was still a thing of beauty. Wasn't that the game where Bobby pitched a fit afterwards that the SMU student section hurt his feelings in yelling at him/and or his team. Poor Bobby he has such virgin ears to go with that virgin tongue of his.
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