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Re: Coach Doh and the Madness of March

Postby CalallenStang » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:27 am

This is all about recruiting. Here's how recruiting works. Doh sends out a special mailer to our top recruits that says "watch me on channel xyz at abc o'clock." Afterwards, he sends another mailer talking about how he was featured as an "expert" on channel xyz and wouldn't you rather play for an "expert" than some "no name" guy coaching at Western New Mexico Tech? These are the reasons that you pay for a "big name coach." Don't like it? Don't hire a big name coach
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Re: Coach Doh and the Madness of March

Postby Hoop Fan » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:19 pm

Mr. Big Name Coach just posted a 14-17 record in his fourth year on the job. Do I expect him to go into hiding? no. Recruit, go watch some tournament game, go on vacation and relax for all i care. Just don't whip us with your March Madness love and expertise. Even if its aimed exclusively at recruits, all of em are smart enough to put 2 + 2 together and think, sure Doh nice interview, what are you doing talking about it instead of coaching in it even if just the NIT or CBA? What was your record this year? How'd you do in your conference tournament last week? The point is it makes Doh and SMU look worse, not better, right now. If this was year 1 or 2 of Doh, fine. It ain't.
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Re: Coach Doh and the Madness of March

Postby CalallenStang » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:47 pm

Even if its aimed exclusively at recruits, all of em are smart enough to put 2 + 2 together


I wouldn't be so sure about that. Young people are dazzled by fame
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Re: Coach Doh and the Madness of March

Postby Hoop Fan » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:58 pm

now Doh is 'famous'? If so, it hasn't done us a lick of good so far. At some point, style counts for squat and its all substance.
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Re: Coach Doh and the Madness of March

Postby CalallenStang » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:00 pm

Hoop Fan wrote:now Doh is 'famous'? If so, it hasn't done us a lick of good so far. At some point, style counts for squat and its all substance.


I agree with you on that, but the fact is, when you hire a "big name coach," this is why you hire him. If you want a foot soldier who does all of his talking with his win-loss record, you hire a guy like Josh Pastner at Memphis or Donnie Jones at Marshall.
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Re: Coach Doh and the Madness of March

Postby NastyStang » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:00 pm

No young player is watching Doh on fox sports net (low grade network anyways) and thinking oh my god my future coach is on TV. That's a joke bud...
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Re: Coach Doh and the Madness of March

Postby CalallenStang » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:13 pm

NastyStang wrote:No young player is watching Doh on fox sports net (low grade network anyways) and thinking oh my god my future coach is on TV. That's a joke bud...


I'm just telling you how this entire athletics administration thinks.
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Re: Coach Doh and the Madness of March

Postby PonyDoh » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:26 pm

First off, I've been around many staffs/coaches, and few take in as much basketball as Doh and crew. They watch prospects every available moment within rules. I don't much want to be brow beaten w/his love for March Madness either, but doing the circuit is part of the job. That means TV/Radio etc. Tweeting about it flat sucks b/c we're the only ones that pay attention. He should know better. As for TV, it's good visibility, not up for debate.
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Re: Coach Doh and the Madness of March

Postby Alaric » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:59 am

PonyDoh wrote:First off, I've been around many staffs/coaches, and few take in as much basketball as Doh and crew. They watch prospects every available moment within rules. I don't much want to be brow beaten w/his love for March Madness either, but doing the circuit is part of the job. That means TV/Radio etc. Tweeting about it flat sucks b/c we're the only ones that pay attention. He should know better. As for TV, it's good visibility, not up for debate.


Just add that it's a great experience but rings hollow without SMU in it...seems like he's glad to have the time off so he can have a good time. That's the problem, not that he's getting more exposure.
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Re: Coach Doh and the Madness of March

Postby PonyDoh » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:26 am

Alaric wrote:
PonyDoh wrote:First off, I've been around many staffs/coaches, and few take in as much basketball as Doh and crew. They watch prospects every available moment within rules. I don't much want to be brow beaten w/his love for March Madness either, but doing the circuit is part of the job. That means TV/Radio etc. Tweeting about it flat sucks b/c we're the only ones that pay attention. He should know better. As for TV, it's good visibility, not up for debate.


Just add that it's a great experience but rings hollow without SMU in it...seems like he's glad to have the time off so he can have a good time. That's the problem, not that he's getting more exposure.


I know when my teams aren't dancing ie SMU & Maryland, I have a really hard time getting geared up for it, if only b/c it hurts sitting out, even though the event is great no matter who is playing. If I were a coach, I'd think I'd just want it to end, so we're all back on the same playing field. In the interim, I'd find a PG
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Re: Coach Doh and the Madness of March

Postby Hoop Fan » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:47 am

PonyDoh wrote:I know when my teams aren't dancing ie SMU & Maryland, I have a really hard time getting geared up for it, if only b/c it hurts sitting out, even though the event is great no matter who is playing. If I were a coach, I'd think I'd just want it to end, so we're all back on the same playing field. In the interim, I'd find a PG


my sentiments exactly. Once Illinois got left out (and deservedly so), i tuned out on the hype. But once the games were on last night, I enjoyed them. Great day 1 I must say. The Wake-UT game was great way to end it too. How bout those 3 freshman for UT scoring most of their points? They could be great in two years. Thats why SMU is so frustrating to me right now, we made virtually no progress this year. Maybe next year will be the year that OUR freshman show us a legit future, not just marginal hope.
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Re: Coach Doh and the Madness of March

Postby Pony81 » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:14 pm

As everyone on this board knows, if not for the cost of to buy him out from his -now disclosed -7 year deal MD would be gone. Unfortunately, we are not Notre Dame - or even close - and don't have the big wallets willing to clean up an SO mistake.

Who in his right mind gives a7 year deal? Well, SO did to get the former National Coach of the Year. I know SMU is hardly a garden spot for up and coming coaches but there are plenty of excellent coaches willing to cash a $500,000 check every year.

SO made a mistake. He was dazzled by the MD mystique. At the end of the day what he has to show for it is the Crum Center. I'm sure SO thought that by year 4 we would have an NBA prospect on the roster and would be knocking at tournament door. Instead,we have beaten down players with a roster that can not withstand the injuries that happen in D1 athletics.

MD has another year. We will have the same middle to lower tier CUSA result in 10-11. He will then be fired and retire from coaching. This is how it works at middle tier basketball program.
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