Men's Basketball Wins Big at Southeast Missouri State, 84-65

[Mitch McConnell]

Just a refresher on the rules. The streamline quesiton is addressed at the bottom.

The boxscore and game story are of no value because you weren't there.

The game that you listened to on the radio is actually the game you didn't listen to on the radio because you weren't there.

The youtube videos of interviews should be taken at face value because you weren't there. And that actually wasn't Doherty or the players speaking. Those were people pretending to be Doherty and the players.

The road games that SMU plays should not count against SMU's record because you weren't there so you don't know.

And the SMU games you watch on TV or streamline also don't count because the camera angles don't give you the proper insight you need to be educated enough to post. Besides, you weren't there.

[Mitch McConnell]

Mitch, my friend, I think you're missing the point. I believe some SMU fans are just tired of reading through criticisms cast be folks too lazy to get off their [deleted] and support the team in person. There are obviously fans who don't live close enough to attend games regularly, but listening to critical fans whose entire effort can be reduced down to logging into a message board is a little tiresome. Surely you understand the position.

Yep. We have this circular argument every year. And it's probably not going to change until the product vastly improves and when SMU is seriously in a position to contend for conference championships much less postseason tournament berths -- consistently.

Has SMU been doing that lately?

[ponyscott]

NOW I understand...thanks for the clarification!

[Junior]

Mitch, my friend, I think you're missing the point. I believe some SMU fans are just tired of reading through criticisms cast be folks too lazy to get off their [deleted] and support the team in person. There are obviously fans who don't live close enough to attend games regularly, but listening to critical fans whose entire effort can be reduced down to logging into a message board is a little tiresome. Surely you understand the position.

The argument loses a little bit of weight with me when I'm working til 8 or 9pm during most of college bball season. Since I work later than most and am unable to go to most games, does that mean that I'm not a fan? Does that mean that I don't support the program? Some people would say yes. Those people apparently don't understand how to prioritize. Taking care of myself, my family and my company financially carries a little more importance than sitting in a gym watching the guys play live. I am usually able to get the radio feed and stat tracker, so I feel like I'm able to keep up with what's going on.

But the fact of the matter is that I was not physically there; therefore, I obviously have no grounds on which to criticize the team. Right?

[Mitch McConnell]

I'm not looking to be the champion of the "if you aren't there you aren't real fan" crowd, I was just getting a bit tired of the never-end posts on the subject. Some haven't learned to make your point and then stop.

Hopefully your boss will cut back on your 80 work weeks and you'll be able to make game or two. Bring the family.

Cox, this could have been avoided if the "if you aren't there you aren't a real fan" crowd didn't come after the fans who weren't there. They made it an issue. We responded in kind. They don't like the pushback? Too bad.

Here's the bottom line about the Jackson St. game: Given that this was a home game per se, a guarantee game for them (I presume it was) and the fact that SMU's talent level was presumed better than Jackson State, this was set up for a W.

And the fact that this didn't happen is inexcusable. I don't want to hear about players not executing X,Y and Z. That's BS too. If we were told this team was arguably the best the Doherty has fielded, then it should have been a no-brainer.

On that Thursday morning, how many of us looked at that game and thought, "Oh, that's a win.''

I'll take this a step further.

Since we were a horrible 5-13 at the foul line, we shouldn't have even been in a position to where that was going to be an issue in this game.

When do the excuses end?

[Mitch McConnell]

Cox, I'm glad you made the effort. Appreciate your passion for the school. I actually considered taking my girls with me that night. But my wife had a function going on that night so I couldn't stray too long and too far away from the house because she needed me there at the end.

What you've experienced is only about a thimble's worth of the song and dance that guys like mustangbill67, ponyscott, RGV, giddyup and myself have endured since we stepped on the campus as freshmen.

We all want to them win -- in the worst way. And clunkers like these just feel like a kick to the gut because we've seen this so many times before.

That's my version of "ENOUGH"

[2ndandlong]

I'm not looking to be the champion of the "if you aren't there you aren't real fan" crowd, I was just getting a bit tired of the never-end posts on the subject. Some haven't learned to make your point and then stop.

Hopefully your boss will cut back on your 80 work weeks and you'll be able to make game or two. Bring the family.

Cox, this could have been avoided if the "if you aren't there you aren't a real fan" crowd didn't come after the fans who weren't there. They made it an issue. We responded in kind. They don't like the pushback? Too bad.

Here's the bottom line about the Jackson St. game: Given that this was a home game per se, a guarantee game for them (I presume it was) and the fact that SMU's talent level was presumed better than Jackson State, this was set up for a W.

And the fact that this didn't happen is inexcusable. I don't want to hear about players not executing X,Y and Z. That's BS too. If we were told this team was arguably the best the Doherty has fielded, then it should have been a no-brainer.

On that Thursday morning, how many of us looked at that game and thought, "Oh, that's a win.''

I'll take this a step further.

Since we were a horrible 5-13 at the foul line, we shouldn't have even been in a position to where that was going to be an issue in this game.

When do the excuses end?

you try to make it sound like there was a conspiracy of posters saying you can't post if you don't go which flat out didn't happen.

I said YOU shouldn't call for Doh to be fired based on a game that you didn't see. You didn't see what played out or how it played out.

You have made no argument to support your position. You just blather on and on without facts or any other legitimate analysis.

[2ndandlong]

I've said it over and over. I encourage people to post even if they don't go to games.

But I do have some expectation that you have fact or basis to what you say whether you attend or not.

Get off the conspiracy of people saying you cant post if you don't go because it just doesn't exist.

[Mitch McConnell]

I'm not looking to be the champion of the "if you aren't there you aren't real fan" crowd, I was just getting a bit tired of the never-end posts on the subject. Some haven't learned to make your point and then stop.

Hopefully your boss will cut back on your 80 work weeks and you'll be able to make game or two. Bring the family.

Cox, this could have been avoided if the "if you aren't there you aren't a real fan" crowd didn't come after the fans who weren't there. They made it an issue. We responded in kind. They don't like the pushback? Too bad.

Here's the bottom line about the Jackson St. game: Given that this was a home game per se, a guarantee game for them (I presume it was) and the fact that SMU's talent level was presumed better than Jackson State, this was set up for a W.

And the fact that this didn't happen is inexcusable. I don't want to hear about players not executing X,Y and Z. That's BS too. If we were told this team was arguably the best the Doherty has fielded, then it should have been a no-brainer.

On that Thursday morning, how many of us looked at that game and thought, "Oh, that's a win.''

I'll take this a step further.

Since we were a horrible 5-13 at the foul line, we shouldn't have even been in a position to where that was going to be an issue in this game.

When do the excuses end?

you try to make it sound like there was a conspiracy of posters saying you can't post if you don't go which flat out didn't happen.

I said YOU shouldn't call for Doh to be fired based on a game that you didn't see. You didn't see what played out or how it played out.

You have made no argument to support your position. You just blather on and on without facts or any other legitimate analysis.

Thanks

[2ndandlong]

[quote="CoxMustangFan"]I'm not looking to be the champion of the "if you aren't there you aren't real fan" crowd, I was just getting a bit tired of the never-end posts on the subject. Some haven't learned to make your point and then stop.

Hopefully your boss will cut back on your 80 work weeks and you'll be able to make game or two. Bring the family.

Cox, this could have been avoided if the "if you aren't there you aren't a real fan" crowd didn't come after the fans who weren't there. They made it an issue. We responded in kind. They don't like the pushback? Too bad.

Here's the bottom line about the Jackson St. game: Given that this was a home game per se, a guarantee game for them (I presume it was) and the fact that SMU's talent level was presumed better than Jackson State, this was set up for a W.

And the fact that this didn't happen is inexcusable. I don't want to hear about players not executing X,Y and Z. That's BS too. If we were told this team was arguably the best the Doherty has fielded, then it should have been a no-brainer.

On that Thursday morning, how many of us looked at that game and thought, "Oh, that's a win.''

I'll take this a step further.

Since we were a horrible 5-13 at the foul line, we shouldn't have even been in a position to where that was going to be an issue in this game.

When do the excuses end?

you try to make it sound like there was a conspiracy of posters saying you can't post if you don't go which flat out didn't happen.

I said YOU shouldn't call for Doh to be fired based on a game that you didn't see. You didn't see what played out or how it played out.

You have made no argument to support your position. You just blather on and on without facts or any other legitimate analysis.

Thanks[/quote]
you're very welcome

[RunningStang]

Mitch, my friend, I think you're missing the point. I believe some SMU fans are just tired of reading through criticisms cast be folks too lazy to get off their [deleted] and support the team in person. There are obviously fans who don't live close enough to attend games regularly, but listening to critical fans whose entire effort can be reduced down to logging into a message board is a little tiresome. Surely you understand the position.

The argument loses a little bit of weight with me when I'm working til 8 or 9pm during most of college bball season. Since I work later than most and am unable to go to most games, does that mean that I'm not a fan? Does that mean that I don't support the program? Some people would say yes. Those people apparently don't understand how to prioritize. Taking care of myself, my family and my company financially carries a little more importance than sitting in a gym watching the guys play live. I am usually able to get the radio feed and stat tracker, so I feel like I'm able to keep up with what's going on.

But the fact of the matter is that I was not physically there; therefore, I obviously have no grounds on which to criticize the team. Right?

I think if you have ever paid any amount of tuition to SMU and are either a current student or a graduate of SMU, then that gives you the right to criticize when things go wrong, get excited when things go right, but it doesn't give you the right to be indifferent to your alma mater.

[hoopmanx]

FWIW, I don't care who goes to games, its not a prerequisite to posting on a message board. Its just the trolls that have an agenda, wait, and then pounce. To those of us who follow religiously, the bad losses hurt enough. I'm pretty sure everyone realizes losing to Jackson St is unacceptable, if not disgusting, but I don't need my nose rubbed in it, by some mega-dbag, who doesn't follow. much less bleed this stuff.