PATHETIC!

[redpony]

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1)SMU has no hoops only booster group responsible for supporting it's staff in areas the traditional budget can't.
2)We need a professional level hoops only trainer, not some guy handed down from the football program or w/roots in other sports. Basketball Elite performance training and conditioning is different.
3)They cover any extra traveling academic support.
4)They fundraise for hoops-centric causes through golf tourney's etc.

hoopmanx- ok I understand some of your comments but:
1) I thought the MC provided funding for all sports including bball. IDK but I don't believe that fball has a special booster group. Why does bball need a 'sponsor group' when none of the other sports have them? There is the lettermens club but I believe they support all sports as well.

2) I believe fball brought in their own trainer. Why doesn't Doh do the same? Does Doh not have any budget allocated to bball?

3) What is 'extra traveling academic support' and why does bball need it if the other sports don't?

4) I believe that JJ used to host a golf tourney but think it was for charity. Why doesn't Doh sponsor a golf tourney with the funds to be used for bball purposes?

IMO some of the problems you mention are not due to lack of support by the university but from lack of actions on the part of the bball coach.

GO PONIES!!!

[smubrooks]

describes the coaching, the play on the court and the support from the fans... but at least the soon to be frat [deleted] showed up and were rowdy!

You are the ultimate GDI

No. Actually I was kicked out of a frat!

[Monkeystang]

Last nights play was awful. You cannot sit here and blame the fans or lack of support. Those guys should of been hyped up to have that many students there. They should of at least tried to make it exciting so they would come back. You will not see those guys back this year. Not after last nights performance. The guys at half time looked better and more together.

[malachi896]

I have no qualms with the lack of support last night. Who gets excited when all the team does is throw the ball around the 3 point line for the entire shot clock and then jack up and brick a three? And, the few times we drive and draw fouls miss our free throws. Terrible. I don't care what you say about any school and their die hard fans. A school that puts a product out like that on a consistent basis will see its enthusiasm and attendance go down.

[Monkeystang]

I do not understand why Williams, Giles or even Jfrog for that matter does not take the ball to the hole more. Manuel started doing it some last night and he had some good points. The opportunity is far greater than throwing the ball around the horn and then launching a three with a guys hand or two in your face. We did the same thing over and over and over and over last night. It would be like running the same football play over and over and over. The defense figures it out and completely shuts you down.

[redpony]

The major porblem is with SO. He has had numerous coaches greatly under-perform yet how many has he fired? Especially those he hired. The soccer program is in the toilet, pretty much the same with bball yet what has he done to correct his mistakes? Or better yet- how many coaches has he hired that have moved us to the TOP25?

GO PONIES!!!

[hoopmanx]

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1)SMU has no hoops only booster group responsible for supporting it's staff in areas the traditional budget can't.
2)We need a professional level hoops only trainer, not some guy handed down from the football program or w/roots in other sports. Basketball Elite performance training and conditioning is different.
3)They cover any extra traveling academic support.
4)They fundraise for hoops-centric causes through golf tourney's etc.

hoopmanx- ok I understand some of your comments but:
1) I thought the MC provided funding for all sports including bball. IDK but I don't believe that fball has a special booster group. Why does bball need a 'sponsor group' when none of the other sports have them? There is the lettermens club but I believe they support all sports as well.

The barriers on entry in basketball are very different than any other sport including football. At most schools, booster clubs fund scholarships, not sure exactly the situation w/the MC. Every big time hoops school in America has club that supports the staff & their efforts, above and beyond the call. Sometimes its as simple as getting new carpet or as big as a basketball only weight room.



2) I believe fball brought in their own trainer. Why doesn't Doh do the same? Does Doh not have any budget allocated to bball?

SMU's basketball budgets are razor thin, but are reputable in terms of national budgets. Still, that doesn't begin to cover it. This year, every high major(see Big East) coach was flying into the Peach Jam via private charter, then leaving for the Under Armour event in Minnesota for the night games. Most were back in Augusta in the morning etc.

3) What is 'extra traveling academic support' and why does bball need it if the other sports don't?

Hoops is the only two semester revenue, and it's applicant pool's transcripts and backgrounds require full-time tutoring. Speaking to the Big East, most of those kids have no right being in college. It takes time/energy and money keeping them tracked, if not just eligible. Its not the same pool of prospects as football or country club sports.


4) I believe that JJ used to host a golf tourney but think it was for charity. Why doesn't Doh sponsor a golf tourney with the funds to be used for bball purposes?
IMO some of the problems you mention are not due to lack of support by the university but from lack of actions on the part of the bball coach.

Groups like the one I'm proposing are just about program. They exist no matter who the coach, no matter what the W/L record. SMU's need for this type of booster group has nothing to do w/Doh, its about having an even playing field.


GO PONIES!!!

[Mustangsabu]

I'm glad they showed up, but at least pretend to be interested in the game. It's sad when you look to the other side of the arena and in the student section and there are all these students sitting down, playing with their phones, looking as though they wished they were anywhere else. I know they were forced to attend by the IFC, but geez.

Did you see how the team came out yesterday? Anyone would be disinterested by that flat, suck [deleted] performance. We laid an absolute egg out of the gate and for most of the game. Missed opportunity to get students in attendance interested in SMU hoops. If anything, that game reminded them why they don't come.

I am so sick and tired of everyone getting on the students. Do people go watch bad movies? No. Why should people want to go watch bad basketball/football or any other sport for their entertainment? Because they go to the university is not a sufficient answer in my book.

And that is the problem. You go because they are representing your university, because they take your classes, and because they will benefit from your support, and they appreciate it greatly. If you need the team to meet your expectations before you will go see them play, then I hope to the Sweet Lord Above you have a 4.0 GPA, or you are disappointing the crap out of me.

That attitude is killing American sports.

[skyscraper]

Have season tix, but I'm out of town on business right now so I didn't go to the game.
Buddies who did said it was miserable and felt bad for the students.
Sorry, but if they were looking at their phones, I don't blame them.
Sounds like we brought the suck last night.

This season has been full of games where we could potentially hook people in (Jackson State in south Dallas, OSU at AAC, frats at CUSA opener) where we basically shove the casual fan away with the way we play.

[One Trick Pony]

saying the same [deleted] in Fort Worth. LOL I think a lot of people just don't dig hoops.

[LHS81]

You aren't allowed to complain on this board.

[ponyscott]

The major porblem is with SO. He has had numerous coaches greatly under-perform yet how many has he fired? Especially those he hired. The soccer program is in the toilet, pretty much the same with bball yet what has he done to correct his mistakes? Or better yet- how many coaches has he hired that have moved us to the TOP25?

GO PONIES!!!

Repony will you friggin get off the soccer deal? They were ranked in the Top 5 this year and finished in the Top 20 and got a BYE in the FIRST Round of the NCAA's D-1 Tournament and lost in the second round of the NCAA's ------and had a top 5 or 10 recruiting class last year.

[SMUer]

UNDER ACHIEVERS clap clap clapclapclap

Has any team done so little with so much?

[PoconoPony]

You can have every support system in place and it will not have any impact on bad coaching. Our problem is not support systems and more coddling of athletes, it is basic coaching and the personal dedication of the players.