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Re: Hoopman or anyone...Tell me what you know about Grandsta

Postby hoopmanx » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:21 pm

I like TDMustangs take a lot, other than classification. Austin is a fine offensive player and has a lot of tools but his inflated stats are the product of being on poor teams in high school and aau. In EYBL action I saw, Austin was a heist. I actually think he's sorta nick calathes lite. Good shooter, solid off the bounce but not overly explosive, not a ridiculous athlete, good passer. There are lower ranked kids I like more.
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Re: Hoopman or anyone...Tell me what you know about Grandsta

Postby hoopmanx » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:22 pm

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LA_Mustang wrote:I haven't seen him play but I've watched a few of his YouTube clips. The kid is deadly as a spot up shooter. He led the Metroplex in scoring this year averaging 26.5 PPG. He plays for Rockwall which is in the highest classification in TX but the district he plays in isn't very strong in hoops. I have no clue about his defensive ability. Not sure about the Monta comparison. IMO, he's a Doug McDermott type player.


I totally disagree with the McDermott comparison unless you are just trying to find a white player to compare him to. Grandstaff is more of a shooting guard with handles at 6'5". Kind of reminds me a little bit of Westbrook.


Umm,, Westbrook who? Please don't say russell
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Postby Rebel10 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:24 pm

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LA_Mustang wrote:I haven't seen him play but I've watched a few of his YouTube clips. The kid is deadly as a spot up shooter. He led the Metroplex in scoring this year averaging 26.5 PPG. He plays for Rockwall which is in the highest classification in TX but the district he plays in isn't very strong in hoops. I have no clue about his defensive ability. Not sure about the Monta comparison. IMO, he's a Doug McDermott type player.


I totally disagree with the McDermott comparison unless you are just trying to find a white player to compare him to. Grandstaff is more of a shooting guard with handles at 6'5". Kind of reminds me a little bit of Westbrook.


Umm,, Westbrook who? Please don't say russell

Okay, I won't.
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Re: Hoopman or anyone...Tell me what you know about Grandsta

Postby hoopmanx » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:25 pm

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TDMustang wrote:I think Austin is a highly skilled player and I definitely want him to come SMU but I think he is overrated nationally for a few reasons.

1. He is by far the #1 scoring option on a relatively weak Rockwall team in a pretty weak 4A conference which inflates his impressive scoring average (about 25 ppg I think, which makes him one of the best scorers in the area). He played district games all year against rural 4A teams such as Royse City, Wylie, etc. and they just got bounced from the playoffs in the first or second round.

2. One of the reasons he can score so effectively is that he is relatively tall for a SG at the high school level (about 6'4") and he knows how to use his body to his advantage. He is decently athletic, but is rail thin and I believe he'd have a hard time scoring besides making open jumpers against elite defenders in college.

3. Austin's father, Wes, is the director of the Team Texas AAU program which austin and several other top players in the area play on, so he has been promoting his son for several years to boost his profile nationally.

As a side note, Elijah Thomas used to live with the Grandstaff family and play at Rockwall with Austin when they were both freshmen. From what I've been told, as Elijah's recruitment began to skyrocket Wes tried to promote Austin's recruitment through Elijah and get them both inivted to national camps, etc. This eventually led to a falling out between Elijah and wes which led him to eventually transfer to Prime Prep and then Lancaster where he now plays. I think they've mended their relationship since, because they both play on Team Texas now, although they don't live together. I think Elijah and Austin always remained friends though, and they regularly correspond on twitter. Austin also transferred away from Rockwall for a really brief time, to go to Hungtington Prep in West Virginia, but came back to Rockwall in less than a month.

All I'm really saying is that I think Austin is a great player that could definitely help SMU, but I don't think he's the program changer that his top 50 national ranking might lead you to believe. And if getting Austin could help bring in Elijah or vice versa, that would be awesome.


I would take Gilder as my top choice at SG imo.


I really like Gilder, and furthermore, I think he's an easy get. That said, I really get the notin after talking to a few well placed folks, that he's not the priority and it could be a numbers game. Gilders problem is length. Larry likes the, exceptionally long and whereas gilder isn't smal he not LB prototype. There was a day when we'd settle a little, but they are gonna have to strike out once or twice before getting to admon
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Re: Hoopman or anyone...Tell me what you know about Grandsta

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:26 pm

hoopmanx wrote:I like TDMustangs take a lot, other than classification. Austin is a fine offensive player and has a lot of tools but his inflated stats are the product of being on poor teams in high school and aau. In EYBL action I saw, Austin was a heist. I actually think he's sorta nick calathes lite. Good shooter, solid off the bounce but not overly explosive, not a ridiculous athlete, good passer. There are lower ranked kids I like more.

Good assessments by TD and hoopx.
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Postby OhioBrownFan » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:27 pm

Rebel10 wrote:
hoopmanx wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:
I totally disagree with the McDermott comparison unless you are just trying to find a white player to compare him to. Grandstaff is more of a shooting guard with handles at 6'5". Kind of reminds me a little bit of Westbrook.


Umm,, Westbrook who? Please don't say russell

Okay, I won't.

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Re: Hoopman or anyone...Tell me what you know about Grandsta

Postby LA_Mustang » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:37 pm

Rebel10 wrote:I totally disagree with the McDermott comparison unless you are just trying to find a white player to compare him to. Grandstaff is more of a shooting guard with handles at 6'5". Kind of reminds me a little bit of Westbrook.

Has nothing to do with being white but rather style of play based on what I saw from Grandstaff's YouTube clips. Like McDermott was coming out of HS, I see Grandstaff as a deadly spot up shooter with nice size. If you've seen him play I'll defer to you, but from what I saw, quick would not be in my description. You say Westbrook, really?
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Postby Rebel10 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:39 pm

LA_Mustang wrote: You say Westbrook, really?


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Postby ClickClack » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:48 pm

Westbrook is an athletic freak that can get to the rim at will and can play above the rim finishing.

Grandstaff's athelticism is average at best and is more of a pure shooter who has the ability to spot up or put the ball on the floor to use his floater in the lane.

Calathes comparison isnt bad but he was a magician with the ball and a much better passer than Grandstaff while I think Grandstaff may be more of a shooter.
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Re: Hoopman or anyone...Tell me what you know about Grandsta

Postby BUS » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:18 pm

What are Grandstaffs grades like?
From what I am reading he is not a next level projection ... so can he graduate and be an asset to the community?
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Postby OhioBrownFan » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:23 pm

Georgetown just offered today
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Postby stangsup4 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:40 pm

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Postby BUS » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:17 pm

Georgetown.
Wow
OK enough said.
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Postby OhioBrownFan » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:20 pm

BUS wrote:Georgetown.
Wow
OK enough said.

What's that mean? Are you referring to Gtown being a really good team?
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Postby gostangs » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:49 pm

whats the big deal with Georgetown? We are a better basketball school now, much less next year and the next.
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