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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby photopony » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:45 pm

I think Tolbert and Semi will do well.
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby MFFL02 » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:47 pm

photopony wrote:I think Tolbert and Semi will do well.


Isn't Semi a SF and Tolbert is a PF?
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby photopony » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:17 pm

MFFL02 wrote:
photopony wrote:I think Tolbert and Semi will do well.


Isn't Semi a SF and Tolbert is a PF?


I mean just having some size and rebound presence.
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby gostangs » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:52 pm

There really aren't PF and SF anymore. There are2 post, 2 guards and a point.
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby MFFL02 » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:56 pm

If you want to compete against the top teams in the country, you need 7 footers.
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby TidePony » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:02 pm

Hopefully Larry is looking for another Big... I'm sure he has a plan.
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby Pony_Law » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:09 pm

TidePony wrote:Hopefully Larry is looking for another Big... I'm sure he has a plan.


I know they are looking, of course in college you could get away with a guys that are 6-9 or so with long arms and athleticism.
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby JasonB » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:51 am

This season, we dominated teams that couldn't match our front court, but teams with a lot of length (Gonzaga, Cincy, UCLA) really bothered us.

Next year's team will play completely differently; it will be interesting to see the transition.

Players like Kennedy and Sterling are the types of players LB loves with their physical play, and I think the TT transfer will give us another one of those types of players.

But next year will be a perimeter team. If you think of a team having 2 posts, The players who will play the 4 (Ben Moore and Semi) would both rather play on the perimeter, and Kennedy and Tolbert aren't traditional 5s. I know Tolbert is a 4, but he will have to play lower post because of his physical nature.

I think in the end, more perimeter players, better shooting (KF and improved Gu), will make us less consistent (we will have off shooting nights that cost us games we really should win), but will make us a more dangerous tourney team.

More than anything, I expect a slow start next season. It took us half a year to identify the defensive replacement for Russell, and that might happen again. Lots of new players, and we won't be dominant down low to bail us out. Gu will be a lot better. We don't have a good rotation down low until Semi comes in.

PG: Sed/Shake
SG: Nic/KF
3: Sterling/Gu
"4": Moore/Semi
"5": MK/Tolbert

Houston recruit redshirts. If we pull in another big I thin it is a sign that a player is leaving.

That said, we are going to see a lot of 4 perimeter sets to move around the perimeter and give space in the lane . Two guards out high and two players sitting on the wings. Isolate a point high on one side, then pull the post to the elbow and run the pick and roll all day long. If they collapse on the pick, then you have Nic to kick out to high, and Sterling and Semi to hit the baseline 3 on either side, depending where the collapse comes from. Parker/Duncan/Manu/Bowen
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby SMU 86 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:57 am

JasonB wrote:
Houston recruit redshirts. If we pull in another big I thin it is a sign that a player is leaving.


We have one more scholarship to give and we are bringing in 3 guards. I don't think we use it on another guard and if we use it on a big I don't think it is necessarily a sign that MK is leaving. Even if MK stays would you rather have another guard when we really need another big?
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby hoopmanx » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:43 am

gostangs wrote:There really aren't PF and SF anymore. There are2 post, 2 guards and a point.


Jesus, thank you! I'm so tired of people saying we won't have a center. That's not how this offense works
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby hoopmanx » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:44 am

MFFL02 wrote:If you want to compete against the top teams in the country, you need 7 footers.


That's a farce
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby hoopmanx » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:45 am

Pony_Law wrote:
TidePony wrote:Hopefully Larry is looking for another Big... I'm sure he has a plan.


I know they are looking, of course in college you could get away with a guys that are 6-9 or so with long arms and athleticism.


In college, you can get away w/6-7 posts, if they are balls tough
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby Pony_Law » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:56 am

hoopmanx wrote:
Pony_Law wrote:
TidePony wrote:Hopefully Larry is looking for another Big... I'm sure he has a plan.


I know they are looking, of course in college you could get away with a guys that are 6-9 or so with long arms and athleticism.


In college, you can get away w/6-7 posts, if they are balls tough


I agree you can get a away with it, but you are better off if you have a 6-10 rim protector, not required but A Great asset to have.
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby Rebel10 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:57 am

hoopmanx wrote:
Pony_Law wrote:
TidePony wrote:Hopefully Larry is looking for another Big... I'm sure he has a plan.


I know they are looking, of course in college you could get away with a guys that are 6-9 or so with long arms and athleticism.


In college, you can get away w/6-7 posts, if they are balls tough

You also said that we would not miss Mudiay and that Emelgu was a really good player. If we go to two 6'7 players in the post we will truly be headed towards mid major status in the long run. Not very many Dayton's around. If Kennedy comes back next year we will be able to better get away with it but after that we would not be in the best of shape imo.
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby Pony_Law » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:05 am

Of course we were not better off without mudiay. Emelogu had a rough year but he has talent and the physical tools to be a good player (I could see him stepping into RM's role with hard work).

In college players leave, if we don't get a big this year I think we will be ok based on what we have but you have to believe that bugs would be a huge priority for the 2016 class.
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