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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby hoopmanx » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:22 pm

blackoutpony wrote:hoop generally knows what he's talking about, but one of his favorite things to do is post something cryptic to stir the pot, sit back, and watch typical ponyfan meltdown after meltdown.

It's comical how yall just keep playing into it. He might as well change his handle to puppetmasterx :lol:


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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby hoopmanx » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:26 pm

smusportspage wrote:Sorry, when someone comes on here claiming that SMU is committing "continued academic fraud" (his words not mine) then, yes I will take issue with that. In light of the problems at UNC, I just don't think that it should be loosely thrown out there on a public forum without substantiation.


I said the goal was to guard against the NCAA finding continued academic fraud at smu. From what I know, they didn't find anything
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby hoopmanx » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:28 pm

MFFL02 wrote:HoopManX may have some inside knowledge within the program, but that doesn't mean he's more knowledgable about basketball than others on this thread. For example, a few days ago he said you don't need 7-footers to compete against the top teams in the country. Good luck having a realistic chance at beating Kentucky without any 7-footers...


You don't need 7ft guys. Good luck beating Kentucky w/o upgrading every position on the roster. I'm not sure we have anyone, this past year or next, who would start for them. Maybe Nic next year?
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby RGV Pony » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:39 pm

Someone tell me a 7 footer who isn't mostly a stiff, yanick notwithstanding
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby RGV Pony » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:39 pm

*that's at a non top 5 program
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby hoopmanx » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:54 am

RGV Pony wrote:Someone tell me a 7 footer who isn't mostly a stiff, yanick notwithstanding


Exactly and I seriously doubt Yanick measures at 7ft. The notion that you need 7ft kids or anyone over 6'8 is pretty absurd. It's college hoops and Larry has said on more than one occasion that he values team length. If we're sizable 1-10, a few inches on a forward doesn't matter. This is about versatility and skill. If we rebound well for our respective positions, problem solved.

The most hilarious stuff on this board is people saying stuff like, 'we need a big, wish we had gotten Thon Maker or Diamond Stone"
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby Rebel10 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:34 am

hoopmanx wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:Someone tell me a 7 footer who isn't mostly a stiff, yanick notwithstanding


Exactly and I seriously doubt Yanick measures at 7ft. The notion that you need 7ft kids or anyone over 6'8 is pretty absurd. It's college hoops and Larry has said on more than one occasion that he values team length. If we're sizable 1-10, a few inches on a forward doesn't matter. This is about versatility and skill. If we rebound well for our respective positions, problem solved.

The most hilarious stuff on this board is people saying stuff like, 'we need a big, wish we had gotten Thon Maker or Diamond Stone"

Okay Hoopmanb, how many tough as nails (as you put it) forwards do we have next year if Kennedy does not return and how many do we need? Even with the incoming freshmen is our overall team lentgh really any better than anyone else in the top three quarters of our conference? Who in your opinion should we be going after with this last scholarship?
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby friarwolf » Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:59 am

hoopmanx wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:Someone tell me a 7 footer who isn't mostly a stiff, yanick notwithstanding


Exactly and I seriously doubt Yanick measures at 7ft. The notion that you need 7ft kids or anyone over 6'8 is pretty absurd. It's college hoops and Larry has said on more than one occasion that he values team length. If we're sizable 1-10, a few inches on a forward doesn't matter. This is about versatility and skill. If we rebound well for our respective positions, problem solved.

The most hilarious stuff on this board is people saying stuff like, 'we need a big, wish we had gotten Thon Maker or Diamond Stone"


Hoop, you have to admit those are both awesome names so they have that going for them.... :D
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby MFFL02 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:18 am

hoopmanx wrote:
MFFL02 wrote:HoopManX may have some inside knowledge within the program, but that doesn't mean he's more knowledgable about basketball than others on this thread. For example, a few days ago he said you don't need 7-footers to compete against the top teams in the country. Good luck having a realistic chance at beating Kentucky without any 7-footers...


You don't need 7ft guys. Good luck beating Kentucky w/o upgrading every position on the roster. I'm not sure we have anyone, this past year or next, who would start for them. Maybe Nic next year?


Right, we disagree. I think we need bigs to win deep in the tourney, you think we can do it with guys that are 6'8.
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby hoopmanx » Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:45 am

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RGV Pony wrote:Someone tell me a 7 footer who isn't mostly a stiff, yanick notwithstanding


Exactly and I seriously doubt Yanick measures at 7ft. The notion that you need 7ft kids or anyone over 6'8 is pretty absurd. It's college hoops and Larry has said on more than one occasion that he values team length. If we're sizable 1-10, a few inches on a forward doesn't matter. This is about versatility and skill. If we rebound well for our respective positions, problem solved.

The most hilarious stuff on this board is people saying stuff like, 'we need a big, wish we had gotten Thon Maker or Diamond Stone"


Hoop, you have to admit those are both awesome names so they have that going for them.... :D


They're incredible names :lol:
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby hoopmanx » Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:47 am

MFFL02 wrote:
hoopmanx wrote:
MFFL02 wrote:HoopManX may have some inside knowledge within the program, but that doesn't mean he's more knowledgable about basketball than others on this thread. For example, a few days ago he said you don't need 7-footers to compete against the top teams in the country. Good luck having a realistic chance at beating Kentucky without any 7-footers...


You don't need 7ft guys. Good luck beating Kentucky w/o upgrading every position on the roster. I'm not sure we have anyone, this past year or next, who would start for them. Maybe Nic next year?


Right, we disagree. I think we need bigs to win deep in the tourney, you think we can do it with guys that are 6'8.


6'8 guys are big in college. Very few have kids bigger than 6'9 that are actually effective
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby hoopmanx » Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:59 am

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hoopmanx wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:Someone tell me a 7 footer who isn't mostly a stiff, yanick notwithstanding


Exactly and I seriously doubt Yanick measures at 7ft. The notion that you need 7ft kids or anyone over 6'8 is pretty absurd. It's college hoops and Larry has said on more than one occasion that he values team length. If we're sizable 1-10, a few inches on a forward doesn't matter. This is about versatility and skill. If we rebound well for our respective positions, problem solved.

The most hilarious stuff on this board is people saying stuff like, 'we need a big, wish we had gotten Thon Maker or Diamond Stone"

Okay Hoopmanb, how many tough as nails (as you put it) forwards do we have next year if Kennedy does not return and how many do we need? Even with the incoming freshmen is our overall team lentgh really any better than anyone else in the top three quarters of our conference? Who in your opinion should we be going after with this last scholarship?


Don't be linear. We have a HOF coach that has played a number of different ways in his illustrious career. If we don't have post size or depth, we'll have to adapt. Match-ups go both ways as the great Gary Williams used to say. We need a better perimeter more than it matters if we get worse in the post, imo.

IF Kennedy leaves, we're absolutely thin in the post. I have no idea how seriously he's looking at playing somewhere other than the NBA. That said, we'll just have to adapt and plug a hole w/a grunt. Honestly, more than I care about bigs next year, I care about getting transfers this offseason w/the NCAA spectacle hanging over our heads. We live and die by reloading via transfer and we just became a more difficult sell, smack dab in the middle of their decision process. The year after next is the issue, and that rebuild starts now
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby East Coast Mustang » Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:16 am

2016-17 could be really fun with Shake, Sed, Semi, and Vick alongside Sterling and Ben (can you believe they'll already be seniors by then?) Still need some bigs, though.
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby RGV Pony » Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:17 am

I sat next to Dwight Powell yesterday on a flight and swore he must be as tall as Cannen. I've seen him listed as 6'10 in fact, but elsewhere saw 6'9...still looked the part as to length. True 6'9 with length vs 6'10 is kind of splitting hairs imo
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Re: Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

Postby 1983 Cotton Bowl » Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:39 am

hoopmanx wrote:You don't need 7ft guys. Good luck beating Kentucky w/o upgrading every position on the roster. I'm not sure we have anyone, this past year or next, who would start for them. Maybe Nic next year?


OK, I was wondering about UK next season. Believe it or not, the first time I saw them play all season was against Cincy the other day. Cincy always struck me as a big, physical team, but I was stunned at how small and thin they looked against UK. Even though Cincy played tough. . .and I have to hand it to them for that. . .I never had any doubt that UK would win the game. Those UK guys are absolute monsters! I couldn't believe it, even after hearing about them ad naseum all season long. Their forwards are huge, athletic, and long, and their guards are amazing. Still shaking my head.

So how do they look for next season? I'm assuming a bunch of those guys are going into the NBA draft. Are they reloading again with another stable of absolute studs?
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