Official Ole Miss Thread

[hoopmanx]

Best chance to win - score in the fifties/ low sixties/ get to the foul line ( 22-29 against La. Tech) play the Match-up, control temple of game and hope we can be mentally tough enough to close games out. We are just a few possessions away from being 12-4 or whatever it is - Fresno State, OSU, Ole Miss, and so forth - DONT BLAME THE COACHING STAFF. They are giving us the best chance to win.

I blame the staff for roster/personnel decisions that hurt our ability to win these close games. I also blame the staff for not having the kids prepared mentally, to play vs a zone. They had no idea where to go w/the ball. Lastly, I blame them for giving kids the impression they are going selectively run. None of these kids were told they would walk it up all the time, couldn't run even w/numbers, or not be allowed to hit the offensive glass by scheme design. There are quite a few members of this team who are pissed and feel lied to.

I agree that we're pretty close, and that the system is a real pain to play against. You are right, for the most part, the staff has these kids pretty close. It's just really late in the game, for Doh to only get 'close'

[ponyscott]

I hope you are right about Losh Travis but just haven't seen it in way too many games and agree with Manx with the apparent fact that they weren't ready to play against a 2-3 zone as they must have a zone offense set that they work on daily in practice. The Ole Miss trapping press should be an easy fix and it wasn't handled well either. They just didn't look as prepared as they should have been last night. Lets hope they work out the kinks going into CUSA play.

[friarwolf]

Best chance to win - score in the fifties/ low sixties/ get to the foul line ( 22-29 against La. Tech) play the Match-up, control temple of game and hope we can be mentally tough enough to close games out. We are just a few possessions away from being 12-4 or whatever it is - Fresno State, OSU, Ole Miss, and so forth - DONT BLAME THE COACHING STAFF. They are giving us the best chance to win.

I blame the staff for roster/personnel decisions that hurt our ability to win these close games. I also blame the staff for not having the kids prepared mentally, to play vs a zone. They had no idea where to go w/the ball. Lastly, I blame them for giving kids the impression they are going selectively run. None of these kids were told they would walk it up all the time, couldn't run even w/numbers, or not be allowed to hit the offensive glass by scheme design. There are quite a few members of this team who are [deleted] and feel lied to.

I agree that we're pretty close, and that the system is a real pain to play against. You are right, for the most part, the staff has these kids pretty close. It's just really late in the game, for Doh to only get 'close'

Hate to hear that about the players...................

[Hoop Fan]

I blame the staff for roster/personnel decisions that hurt our ability to win these close games. I also blame the staff for not having the kids prepared mentally, to play vs a zone. They had no idea where to go w/the ball. Lastly, I blame them for giving kids the impression they are going selectively run. None of these kids were told they would walk it up all the time, couldn't run even w/numbers, or not be allowed to hit the offensive glass by scheme design. There are quite a few members of this team who are [deleted] and feel lied to.

I agree that we're pretty close, and that the system is a real pain to play against. You are right, for the most part, the staff has these kids pretty close. It's just really late in the game, for Doh to only get 'close'

yes, its very late in the game for moral victories for Doh or being 'close'. The other thing is that even though they are high majors, this year's Okie State and Ole Miss teams are really young teams in down years and will be cellar dwellars in their leagues. Oklahoma State was very beatable despite our perception of their program from the past. Same goes for Fresno, that wasn't Tark's Fresno program that we lost to. I like the makeup of our squad, i just continue to be very frustrated watching us play, we have prolonged scoring droughts that we wallow in, and we consistently keep finding ways to lose winnable games. At this point i feel like a .500 record in the league and a win over TCU at home are the minimum criteria for Doherty getting a 7th year. Those are pretty low standards for year 6, but we are young. With the talent we have though, if they are motivated properly and well coached, they should be able to be .500 in this league and beat TCU at home.

[RGV Pony]

Meanwhile look at eustachy who is 14-2 on the year in hburg so far

[hoopmanx]

I blame the staff for roster/personnel decisions that hurt our ability to win these close games. I also blame the staff for not having the kids prepared mentally, to play vs a zone. They had no idea where to go w/the ball. Lastly, I blame them for giving kids the impression they are going selectively run. None of these kids were told they would walk it up all the time, couldn't run even w/numbers, or not be allowed to hit the offensive glass by scheme design. There are quite a few members of this team who are [deleted] and feel lied to.

I agree that we're pretty close, and that the system is a real pain to play against. You are right, for the most part, the staff has these kids pretty close. It's just really late in the game, for Doh to only get 'close'

yes, its very late in the game for moral victories for Doh or being 'close'. The other thing is that even though they are high majors, this year's Okie State and Ole Miss teams are really young teams in down years and will be cellar dwellars in their leagues. Oklahoma State was very beatable despite our perception of their program from the past. Same goes for Fresno, that wasn't Tark's Fresno program that we lost to. I like the makeup of our squad, i just continue to be very frustrated watching us play, we have prolonged scoring droughts that we wallow in, and we consistently keep finding ways to lose winnable games. At this point i feel like a .500 record in the league and a win over TCU at home are the minimum criteria for Doherty getting a 7th year. Those are pretty low standards for year 6, but we are young. With the talent we have though, if they are motivated properly and well coached, they should be able to be .500 in this league and beat TCU at home.

I agree w/all of that

[RGV Pony]

W our sched and personnel 2 losses at this point wouldn't be outrageous CSU and ORU..rest were winnable

[EastStang]

We were what about 33% shooting? You don't win games lobbing up bricks all day. Can't expect to get many O bounds with our size. Samparrissas has no business shooting threes. He must have missed at least 6 shots from 3 range. His technique is terrible. He shoots his jumper (or set shot) before he hits the zenith of his jump, thus causing a flat shot and almost no backspin. its an easy bad habit to get into when you are shorter, and in practice it probably works, but in a game with a quicker pace and amped up nerves, its poison. He needs someone to work with him on that. If they do, and if it sticks, he could average 25 a game from the top of the key. When we had the lead the game was ours to win, and we couldn't convert wide open looks. The good was that our guys were getting wide open looks outside, the bad was that they couldn't convert those looks. Other than hurrying their shots a little, I didn't see any other really bad techniques. The other goods were that they hustled and played to the end and they played excellent defense. That will keep them in games.

East Stang: Jamal Wilkes of the L.A. Lakers had the worst looking shot maybe in NBA history but it went in. Nothing wrong with J-Frog's shot. He missed some open looks. We don't have anyone who can average 25 points a game even though if Rob N could do something besides catch and shoot ( he did have one nice post up move and a very nice shot fake last night) and learn to get to the line, create space ( Reggie Miller), shoot off the dribble, and then for the Love of God have his teammates screen and re-screen for him he MIGHT average between 18-23 points per game.

If they went in like they did for Jamaal Wilkes, then I wouldn't have said anything. But if you shoot a jumper correctly, you increase the chances it will go in. Backspin vs. Front spin. World of difference.

[EastStang]

Good shot versus poor shot. Never heard anyone complaining last season about J-Frog's shooting form. Did he change it over the summer and is now having "front spin" instead of "back spin". I mean who is the "Shot Doctor" on the SMU staff. Their are other factors - ball rotation is important, proper mechanics, keys on the target, feet landing exactly where to took the shot from, follow-through, etc.............

Not saying your wrong - all these guys need to work on their shooting. Rob N is one motion. Have you notice that? A thing of beauty.

Like I said, I didn't see any flaws in the Ole Miss game from other shooters except rushed shots. And one motion is okay so long as you release at the right place at the right time. If you shoot while you're going up the ball comes off your hand with more force than necessary. Its a habit that kids get into because when they're young they don't have the arm and upper body strength to get it to the basket on a true jump shot. I just noticed it with J Frog because it was very obvious even on a TV screen and he was laying some serious brickage. Perhaps he was just rushing his shots that night. This was the first game I've been able to catch this year.

[Mitch McConnell]

Open looks with a shooter that's hitting 25-30% isn't a way to win games. There is maybe a real reason why he happens to so open late in the game????

Ponscott: It wasn't like we had 10 seconds on the clock. Again you have everyright to get on Losh if you want. I prefer to get on our offensive rebounders who had the "deer in the headlights" look and didn't get in position to get a put back to win the game. Do you have any idea how many games on won on that last second tip-in because the defense relaxes after the shooter misses the shot. Trust me, seen it happen lots of times.

Lets see how many offensive rebounds we get next game.

This was a problem throughout that game. Don't isolate it to just the Losh missed 3-pointer at the end.