Losing some height next year but gaining some shooters

[hoopmanx]

Are you talking about national championship or AAC championship? I would hope most on this board would want to be more than just competitive in the AAC and I think people like MFFL want to be more than just competitive in the ACC. Also I don't think MFFL is saying the team would be undersized if MK comes back just not as long of a team. But it would be nice to have an athletic 7 footer to help when a national championship. Cincy had muscled up guys that were more physical so to mention Cincinnati and say that we will be just as good is nonsense. You mean that you would try for athletic physical undersized guys first before you try to get athletic physical guys that are not undersized (JJ school of thought). I think everyone realized that if MK comes back we will be fine but if he does not come back then Tolbert is your only really physical big that likes to play inside. And no you probably will not win a national championship with two 6'7 guys in the post. Sweet 16 maybe but that would usually be about it like Dayton for the most part not counting the few exceptions. I think you need at least one physical athletic big at around 6'9 or better. Now the problem is really in 2016 when MK and Tolbert are gone. That is why I was hoping to get a big or two this year to start developing when they leave. As far as guard play goes no none knows what the freshmen guards will do until they step on the court in Coach Brown's system. And MK is not undersized as a PF at 6'9 and I don't think LB would turn down a good 7 footer to get a 6'6 center.

Hold on, people really think MK is 6'9?

[Rebel10]

ROFL.

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HoopmanX ‏@Hoopmanx
Is next year the best Terps team since '02?

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[hoopmanx]

ROFL.

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HoopmanX ‏@Hoopmanx
Is next year the best Terps team since '02?

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What's so funny?

[ojaipony]

Hold on, people really think MK is 6'9?

I think most of these guys are not as tall as advertised (maybe Yanick was truly 6'11") but I've stood very close to both MK and Cannen and I'm not so sure they are both 6'9" and 6'10" (they were in socks and I was in shoes, but still . . . ).

[hoopmanx]

Hold on, people really think MK is 6'9?

I think most of these guys are not as tall as advertised (maybe Yanick was truly 6'11") but I've stood very close to both MK and Cannen and I'm not so sure they are both 6'9" and 6'10" (they were in socks and I was in shoes, but still . . . ).

I'd bet most of these guys are down an inch, if not more,from their program listing. Dean Smith always rounded up upperclassmen as a rule.

[Rebel10]

Personally, I'm old school, and I like a true power forward coupled with a long center like a Yanick (except with stronger hands). I felt like MK and YM together were ideal, but you need about 3 long guards who are consistent scoring threats from the perimeter and a slasher or 2. We would have had that IF KF was lights out AND Eman came - that's what LB thought, too (most likely we'd still be playing in the tourney).

Next year, of course, we lose Yanick (and CC) and our slasher in Ryan and best on ball defender. If MK comes back, I'd still like to see us get a long 6'11" type to get around the rim at both ends of the court. Do that and if both freshmen guards can heat up by AAC time ("heat up" here being getting into the flow of college BB and be legit scoring threats, solid defenders, and not TO machines), this could be that same type team as I described above. I think Sed will for sure. And, although Shake was higher regarded as a recruit, I think he's going to have a tougher time adjusting (the physicality of it). With Sterling and Tolbert (2 tough dudes who are very versatile), we gonna be good! (will be interesting to see how Semi fits in once he starts playing).

I guess I am old school as well.

[hoopmanx]

Let me ask you old school guys a question; in college ball today, what percentage of programs are truly inside/out?

[Rebel10]

Let me ask you old school guys a question; in college ball today, what percentage of programs are truly inside/out?

SMU was last year. I hope we play Maryland in the big dance next year since they have a good big because bigs are not necessary to win the national championship according to you. Maryland really only needs a 6'6 center to do it.

[Prideful Pony]

Interesting to watch Notre Dame go toe-to-toe with Kentucky last night with a line-up of one 6'10" guy, three 6'5", and one 6'1". The key, though, was that all 5 guys for ND had the offensive skills to make them a threat to score (inside or outside) at all times, whereas we generally only have two such players on the court. Hopefully that will change next year.

Not sure why this isn't being talked about more in this thread. Notre Dame played UK even through-out despite giving up height down low because they were all offensive threats and had long guards. It's not crazy to think we could do the same. Michigan St is a final four team with two 6'9" guys at the top end.

Our issues against taller teams haven't necessarily been that we can't hang with them down low; it's that if they can match or edge us there we haven't had the shooters to compensate.I don't think we'd turn away a 7 footer that can play but they're in short supply for all but the elite recruiting schools. We're not in that rarified air yet, but it sure seems like we can still challenge by finding 6'9" guys with the right skill set and surrounding them with creators/finishers.

[Harry0569]

Let me ask you old school guys a question; in college ball today, what percentage of programs are truly inside/out?

Pace and Space is the way the game is trending. Not trying to be a [deleted] to the "old school" guys, but that way of playing is being phased out. Defenses are too complex now to simply dump the ball down to a big on the low block and let him go to work.

Go watch Wiscy/ND/Duke - all five guys (or at least 4/5) are 3-point threats, which opens up the lanes for driving (finish/foul).

[Harry0569]

Let me ask you old school guys a question; in college ball today, what percentage of programs are truly inside/out?

SMU was last year. I hope we play Maryland in the big dance next year since they have a good big because bigs are not necessary to win the national championship according to you. Maryland really only needs a 6'6 center to do it.

Go watch the Warriors. There are extended periods of time when Draymond Green, who is 6'6, is playing Center and they seem to be doing alright.

Read Kirk's article on grantland today.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/kevin ... -pelicans/

[Pony_Law]

If the guys buy in to playing good team defense and our post players work hard you can get away with guys that are 6'9" in the post at the college level if your guards are good enough to keep the opposing teams guards out of the lane. This is mostly because there are not that many great post players in college because the vast majority of the athletic big men only play 1 year and want to play facing the basket. notice how the best post players in college thend to be smaller guys that as a result stayed in college or a relatively long time (MK, harrel, boozer, ect).

if you have 5 guys on the floor that can score you can play with anyone.

[Pony_Law]

Let me ask you old school guys a question; in college ball today, what percentage of programs are truly inside/out?

Pace and Space is the way the game is trending. Not trying to be a [deleted] to the "old school" guys, but that way of playing is being phased out. Defenses are too complex now to simply dump the ball down to a big on the low block and let him go to work.

Go watch Wiscy/ND/Duke - all five guys (or at least 4/5) are 3-point threats, which opens up the lanes for driving (finish/foul).

Duke is where they are because they have a tall athletic freshman with great post moves and they feed him the rock. The reason you don't see as many teams go inside is because in today's game players that have the build for it either a) played facing the basket in highschool and haven't added the muscle and post moves to their game yet (like Myles turner) and b) the playes with the potential to be unstoppable in the post (athletic 6'10 guys) go pro very early. What you end up with is guys that are 6'9 upper class ends with good post moves, who will always be very good but not the kind of dominant guys like Olajuwon, Ewing, and latner achieved.

[ClickClack]

ROFL.

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HoopmanX ‏@Hoopmanx
Is next year the best Terps team since '02?

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You have to be the single must annoying poster on the board, basketball or football..doesn't matter. you make things up and imply things that aren't even said.

He never said he wouldn't want a 5 star Center, he just said it isn't mandatory for winning. Elite is Elite, if terps got a commit from a 5 star guard the other day who has 5 foot 11, im sure he would be re tweeting those as well.

[Rebel10]

Defenses are too complex now to simply dump the ball down to a big on the low block and let him go to work.

Kentucky seemed to do pretty well dumping it down to Towns time after time.