SMU rarely gets it...

[SMU Football Blog]

Friendly reminder:

SMU's RPI has gone down every year under Tubbs. Dement's last season, it was 137. Tubb's first season, it was 144. At the end of this season it was 234. This year, SMU was 0-1 versus the top 25, 0-5 versus the top 50, 0-7 versus the top 100, and 1-10 versus the top 200.

[abezontar]

And if there is more to tell, why hasn’t it been reported??? Don’t tell me we’re waiting until the NCAA concludes it investigation, because you don’t fire the coach before the investigation is complete.

Regardless of the outcome, SMU has mucked this up in the worst way and our basketball program is complete disarray. The lucky coach that inherits this mess will have a monumental task to win ten games next season, and probably the next.

Then SMU will fire that coach without releasing the whole story to the public, and we will get to watch Hoop Fan and jtstang work themselves toward another rage induced heart attack....

[jtstang]

Then SMU will fire that coach without releasing the whole story to the public, and we will get to watch Hoop Fan and jtstang work themselves toward another rage induced heart attack....

Probably not, because I don't give a damn about SMU sports anymore. I'll just stick with the Boulevard for my entertainment from now on...

Well, that and aggravating the sunshiners on this board. That's too much fun to give up.

[LA_Mustang]

Phil Bennett is 11-35 in four seasons.......6-29 in his first three, and got a contract extension. It all makes sense now.

[SMU Football Blog]

Nobody can say that SMU was going to be a better basketball team next year . . . with a straight face.

Not the same with Bennett. Wasn't that way last year or the year before, either.

I can give you a reason for both of Bennett's extensions, of which terms were never disclosed, btw. The first one was meaningless in that it didn't increase the financial risk for the University and the second was to keep the staff intact. The only reason I can come up with for Tubbs getting an extension was because he and Blackistone wanted it.

[jtstang]

Nobody can say that SMU was going to be a better basketball team next year . . . with a straight face.

Not the same with Bennett. Wasn't that way last year or the year before, either.

True, you almost have to "get better" when you're 0-12.

[SMU Football Blog]

I am not saying you have to be happy with the decision, I am just reminding people that Tubbs didn't have a very good record, a pretty bad one in fact. And I read through the threads, nobody has mentioned that since Friday.

[EastStang]

Let's take a different look, you're a coach who is being asked to come in and coach SMU. You look at the team you're inheriting. You see what your predecessor inherited and saw the short time he was given. You see the restrictions placed upon recruiting at SMU. You see that you are not getting any recruits this year to improve last year's team. And you see that there are alums who either want results yesterday, or who want their grandson to play a lot of the time regardless of his abilities versus other players. You see that the Dallas ISD coaches have their panties in a wad about your predecessor getting fired. You heard your predecessor was fired for NCAA violations, but all you've heard are de minimus violations in the press. Would you want to know what your predecessor did to get fired? If so, would you take the job if they wouldn't tell you? And if it turns out that he was fired for the guano variety of violations, then do you take the job?

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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:46 am Post subject:

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J.T.,

If Williams had not reported these violations and the NCAA had investigated, we would be dealing with a lot of sanctions. We would probably have lost the chance of postseason play and some scholarships. That is what happened at Minnesota after the Clem Haskins scandal.

Clown -

Now this is one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard! You must be a puppet of Turner's. I guess you are the type of person that would turn in their son for smoking a joint.

Stop defending this guy. In my view, their are a couple of ways for our boys/girls to compete with other programs around the nation:

1) You follow all the rules, have a Boone Pickens like alum support the program, and hope for the best.

2) Have a bunch of alums not really care for anything but winning. Pay the players, the moms, the HS coaches, anyone of influence on these kids. Let's go back to the 80's...at least we won!

Max Williams needs to be banished! I will not give any money to the program until this guy dies. This guys shows no integrity much less any cohones. I would respect this guy more if he said he was paying the players because all he wanted to do was win!

By the way, I agree with DBB. I was never a fan of Tubbs, but we should have never gone back on our word. What does this say to any coach that decides to coach for SMU? We only hurt ourselves with this move.

We should stop trying to be a poster child for the NCAAs. Nobody cares!

I just hope to God that we have a plan...

[mrydel]

Then SMU will fire that coach without releasing the whole story to the public, and we will get to watch Hoop Fan and jtstang work themselves toward another rage induced heart attack....

Probably not, because I don't give a damn about SMU sports anymore. I'll just stick with the Boulevard for my entertainment from now on...

Well, that and aggravating the sunshiners on this board. That's too much fun to give up.

Please be aware that when you see me sitting in a chair on the blvd. it more than likely belongs to Arkpony or BUS who has been kind enough to allow me to rest for a while. Please do not sit in those seats. I would feel responsible and whereas I do not mind when you sneak into mine inside the stadium, I do not feel I can speak nor can I be responsible for the actions of others onto whom you may trespass.

[Hoop Fan]

so now its about performance?? The only way this thing ever improves is with patience that goes beyond two years. I hope the new guy receives that patience but he wont. Remember the storm and all the know it alls wanting Bennett out after years two and three? He survived it and something tells me it wasnt by much. But Bennett was smart, you have to give him credit, he didnt offer scholarships to any grandsons of boosters with questionable motives and involvement in past scandals.

[LA_Mustang]

I am not saying you have to be happy with the decision, I am just reminding people that Tubbs didn't have a very good record, a pretty bad one in fact. And I read through the threads, nobody has mentioned that since Friday.

Not true at all. Both years under Tubbs SMU finished about where they were picked to....middle of the pack. Coach Tubbs did about as well as you could expect with the talent on this team. With his first full year of recruiting he landed two guys in Bamba and Morris that gave you hope for the future. And for the first time ever, we were in the mix for blue-chip recruits in this area. Given another couple of years and improvement/upgrade in facilities, who knows what he could have done. I guess we will never know.

[Stallion]

that two year analysis doesn't make sense. Bennett had the first 0-12 season in SMU History after two seasons.

[Hoop Fan]

JT, at least you probably didnt make a donation to the Mustang Club within the last month. You would think that would at least get you a straight explanation from SMU about why the coach you were asked to support before, is now out after only two years. All we got was a vague press release AFTER the uproar about burger and soap. Maybe SMU was holding back the firing and bad news until after the completion of the latest annual MC campaign. Hows that for cynicism? Ponyboy is going to grill me for this one.

[SMU Football Blog]

that two year analysis doesn't make sense. Bennett had the first 0-12 season in SMU History after two seasons.

Never said it had to make sense. You have been an SMU fan for 25+ years, you should know that by now.