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by PonyDoh » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:39 pm
Stallion wrote:LOL! that you think Georgia is anything but SEC Football Country and that other round ball they play when it gets cold. I think you know what I meant.
Atlanta is a hoops hotbed and it mostly feeds the ACC. You said Georgia wasn't ACC territory, and it certainly is in hoops. Why do I care which sport they worship more again? Texas is football country too, so what
“When I first committed to SMU, I thought it would take a couple of years of building. But with these players coming in, we should make a run. We have a lot of heavy hitters. It could get real ugly for a lot of teams we play.â€- Jalen Jones
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by PonyDoh » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:47 pm
Samurai Stang wrote:PonyDoh wrote:So you are saying grind it out teams don't win?
They can bring victory, but not often enough. The Princeton Offense was designed for an Ivy League school that does not offer scholarships, in order to bring about victory over schools that are able to recruit greater talent. Running this system is admitting that SMU is inferior to other schools that offer scholarships, and that there is simply nothing that can be done in order to change this. Is SMU truly so lacking? Does Doherty think so little of his abilities and what the school offers? Additionally, running a style of basketball that is reminiscent of what was played in the 1950s will not bring in talent from the Dallas area. This style of basketball can provide victory, but for SMU it would at best be slightly over .500. One would hope our expectations are higher.
So what do you say about schools like UCLA, Pitt, Gtown, Arizona St etc? They grind it out at a high level, some modified princeton in there. They are admitting they can't recruit against their competition? It's just a style of play that puts a premium on skills and efficiency. I'm surprised it's so offensive. We're not even going straight princeton, we predicate our motion off the dribble drive. Do kids hate the DDM? Are you really suggesting we run vs Memphis is what has traditionally been a one bid league?
“When I first committed to SMU, I thought it would take a couple of years of building. But with these players coming in, we should make a run. We have a lot of heavy hitters. It could get real ugly for a lot of teams we play.â€- Jalen Jones
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by Charleston Pony » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:57 pm
meanwhile, UNT is playing for a bid to the dance tonight
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by Samurai Stang » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:00 pm
PonyDoh wrote:So what do you say about schools like UCLA, Pitt, Gtown, Arizona St etc? They grind it out at a high level, some modified princeton in there. They are admitting they can't recruit against their competition?
You are naming programs from BCS conferences with long winning traditions. SMU is nowhere near what they are in tradition and fan base. If you wish to choose a program to reference then Air Force is far more similar, in a conference below BCS level that is similar to C-USA. They went 9-20 this year. PonyDoh wrote: Are you really suggesting we run vs Memphis is what has traditionally been a one bid league?
I am suggesting that SMU attempt to become greater than it is. The reason that C-USA has been a one bid league is that there has only been one team to speak of for several years. SMU may not be capable of running with Memphis this season, but there is no reason that it should not be our aspiration to do so. What is your prediction for next season's record?
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by TheBestAvailable » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:26 am
Baylor has also played a tough Big 12 schedule over the last 5 years. Dement couldn't get the team to the next level but he did at least get some of DFW's best players.
It's time for a change.
We can't even win with the joke of a schedule SMU has played since Doherty's been here. UNT has been to 2 out of the last 3 NCAA tournies and were giving Doherty another year to produce another failure.
Come on Orsini.
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by CalallenStang » Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:22 am
Charleston Pony wrote:meanwhile, UNT is playing for a bid to the dance tonight
That just means that Western Kentucky had an off year. No one cares about the Sun Belt.
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by FriscoPMG » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:36 pm
CalallenStang wrote:Charleston Pony wrote:meanwhile, UNT is playing for a bid to the dance tonight
That just means that Western Kentucky had an off year. No one cares about the Sun Belt.
Couldn't this exact statement apply to C-USA too? If Memphis isn't the winner of the conference tourney then nationally C-USA will be associated with Memphis having an off year and that's it...not that some other team emerged from the pack. Not saying Sun Belt is on par with C-USA, but all people care about nationally is Memphis and that's it...just like WKU being the only relevant name in the Sun Belt.
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by JHub » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:02 pm
CalallenStang wrote:Charleston Pony wrote:meanwhile, UNT is playing for a bid to the dance tonight
That just means that Western Kentucky had an off year. No one cares about the Sun Belt.
Regardless, the Mean Green are making their 2nd trip to the Dance in four years. When's the last time the Ponies or TCU Danced ? If you'll do a little checking, UNT is 5-2 vs CUSA teams in regular season since 2006.
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by mustangxc » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:16 pm
FriscoPMG wrote:CalallenStang wrote:Charleston Pony wrote:meanwhile, UNT is playing for a bid to the dance tonight
That just means that Western Kentucky had an off year. No one cares about the Sun Belt.
Couldn't this exact statement apply to C-USA too? If Memphis isn't the winner of the conference tourney then nationally C-USA will be associated with Memphis having an off year and that's it...not that some other team emerged from the pack. Not saying Sun Belt is on par with C-USA, but all people care about nationally is Memphis and that's it...just like WKU being the only relevant name in the Sun Belt.
Actually, UTEP is a lock for an at large bid and UAB and Memphis are still on the bubble for at large selections. The Sun Belt is definitely an auto bid conference and nothing more.
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by PonyDoh » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:20 pm
mustangxc wrote:Actually, UTEP is a lock for an at large bid and UAB and Memphis are still on the bubble for at large selections. The Sun Belt is definitely an auto bid conference and nothing more.
CUSA bumps up to a 2 or 3 bid league soon, IMO. MWC is making it's move now.
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by JHub » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:43 pm
MustangXC, Belt had two teams at the Dance in 2008 (USA & WKU). When's the last time CUSA had more than Memphis there ?
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by moodymadmen » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:55 pm
Dallas Observer also noting the ineptitude of Doherty/SMU hoops while praising the best college team in the metroplex: North Texas
"While SMU and disappointing head coach Matt Doherty look for their first Conference USA tournament win tonight at 8:30, the Metroplex last night was assured of a dog in the hunt during next week's March Madness when the University of North Texas captured the Sun Belt Championship...UNT is 24-8, established a school record for victories, has won 11 in a row and even owns some big-stage experience with its second trip to March Madness in the last four years."
I am looking forward to the excuses of why freakin North Texas can put together a 24-8 record and 2 Big Dance appearances in 4 years while Doherty has spent the past 4 years with a sub .500 record. And fyi... Johnny Jones has done that while making 170K per year...1/3 the cost of Doh while actually accomplishing something.
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by PonyDoh » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:04 pm
moodymadmen wrote:Dallas Observer also noting the ineptitude of Doherty/SMU hoops while praising the best college team in the metroplex: North Texas
"While SMU and disappointing head coach Matt Doherty look for their first Conference USA tournament win tonight at 8:30, the Metroplex last night was assured of a dog in the hunt during next week's March Madness when the University of North Texas captured the Sun Belt Championship...UNT is 24-8, established a school record for victories, has won 11 in a row and even owns some big-stage experience with its second trip to March Madness in the last four years."
I am looking forward to the excuses of why freakin North Texas can put together a 24-8 record and 2 Big Dance appearances in 4 years while Doherty has spent the past 4 years with a sub .500 record. And fyi... Johnny Jones has done that while making 170K per year...1/3 the cost of Doh while actually accomplishing something.
Come on, it's the Sun Belt. They finish somewhere near the bottom of CUSA.
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by JHub » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:21 pm
PonyDoh wrote:moodymadmen wrote:Dallas Observer also noting the ineptitude of Doherty/SMU hoops while praising the best college team in the metroplex: North Texas
"While SMU and disappointing head coach Matt Doherty look for their first Conference USA tournament win tonight at 8:30, the Metroplex last night was assured of a dog in the hunt during next week's March Madness when the University of North Texas captured the Sun Belt Championship...UNT is 24-8, established a school record for victories, has won 11 in a row and even owns some big-stage experience with its second trip to March Madness in the last four years."
I am looking forward to the excuses of why freakin North Texas can put together a 24-8 record and 2 Big Dance appearances in 4 years while Doherty has spent the past 4 years with a sub .500 record. And fyi... Johnny Jones has done that while making 170K per year...1/3 the cost of Doh while actually accomplishing something.
Come on, it's the Sun Belt. They finish somewhere near the bottom of CUSA.
Don't assume too much. Since 2006 UNT is 5-2 vs CUSA in regular season games. SMU, on the other hand, wouldn't fare well vs a number of Belt teams. You really need to improve what's happening in your own house before you attempt to down others.
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by PonyDoh » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:29 pm
JHub wrote:PonyDoh wrote:moodymadmen wrote:Dallas Observer also noting the ineptitude of Doherty/SMU hoops while praising the best college team in the metroplex: North Texas
"While SMU and disappointing head coach Matt Doherty look for their first Conference USA tournament win tonight at 8:30, the Metroplex last night was assured of a dog in the hunt during next week's March Madness when the University of North Texas captured the Sun Belt Championship...UNT is 24-8, established a school record for victories, has won 11 in a row and even owns some big-stage experience with its second trip to March Madness in the last four years."
I am looking forward to the excuses of why freakin North Texas can put together a 24-8 record and 2 Big Dance appearances in 4 years while Doherty has spent the past 4 years with a sub .500 record. And fyi... Johnny Jones has done that while making 170K per year...1/3 the cost of Doh while actually accomplishing something.
Come on, it's the Sun Belt. They finish somewhere near the bottom of CUSA.
Don't assume too much. Since 2006 UNT is 5-2 vs CUSA in regular season games. SMU, on the other hand, wouldn't fare well vs a number of Belt teams. You really need to improve what's happening in your own house before you attempt to down others.
I'm not putting down UNT, I just don't find their accomplishment remarkable in the Sun Belt. Comparing what SMU faces in CUSA, to the achievements of UNT in the sun belt, just seems apples to oranges
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