Reading NCAA Report

[tristatecoog]

Maligi has a show cause

I missed him...

Show-cause orders:
A two-year show-cause order for the head men’s basketball coach from Sept. 29, 2015, through Sept. 28, 2017. The coach must attend an NCAA Regional Rules seminar during each year of the show-cause period.

A five-year show-cause order for the former head men’s golf coach from Sept. 29, 2015, through Sept. 28, 2019. The former head men's golf coach received one-year of credit towards his show-cause period for the time since he left the university. If the former coach seeks employment at an NCAA member school, both the school and coach must appear before the COI to detail why his athletic duties should not be restricted.

A five-year show-cause order for the former men’s basketball administrative assistant from Sept. 29, 2015, through Sept. 28, 2020. If the former assistant seeks employment at an NCAA member school, both the school and assistant must appear before the COI to detail why her athletic duties should not be restricted.

A two-year show-cause order for the former compliance director from Sept. 29, 2015, through Sept. 28, 2017. If the former compliance director seeks employment at an NCAA member school, both the school and former director must appear before the COI to detail why his athletic duties should not be restricted.

[RGV Pony]

Oh, my bad. Crazy he didn't get one.

[hoopmanx]

Can Larry use some his Knicks money to fund this appeal? lol

THe sanctions were way worse than I thought, way worse. The report is actually better than I expected. They missed tons. We just couldn't get everyone on the same damn page

[Hoop Fan]

Well, if you want to infer, assume and presume that Brown orchestrated it, then you have to do the same with Roy Boy Williams at UNC who claims no knowledge and every other situation where the coach claims no knowledge. Seems very plausible to me that Ulrich orchestrated it and of course kept Larry out of the fray like any soldier would. Should we be punished? Yes, obviously, but I don't see any systemic issues that warrant scorched earth. The economics are too damaging here.

[Puckhead48E]

Have to do it...just a cathartic act:

"Don't worry about the punishment, we know what they are going to give us."

"They assured us it won't be big."

"There is no way this has any impact on recruiting."

For those who said this in regards to an NCAA investigation of SMU, consider yourself the recipient of a show-cause for stupidity.

[smusportspage]

Exactly, some of you are wanting SMU to go Ken Pye on this when nothing warrants it. Based upon the report, it was one isolated class. All employees involved have been removed.

[geno]

Can anyone, ANYONE!, please explain how the administration thought Larry Brown and his coaching (recruiting) style would be any different than it was at UCLA and Kansas, getting both of those hot shot teams three years of probation each, plus other penalties? Why did they think his record here would be any different?

[Stallion]

that's why I conditionally said that SMU shouldn't have gotten more than 3 scholarships taken away. I just don't have to pretend that this is definitely the full story because they didn't tell the full story 8 times previously in my life.

Anyway-I'd definitely appeal the scholarship sanctions and try to get them reduced to 3-5. Those scholarship limits are really going to hurt us. I see very little chance of getting tournament ban lifted although it might get delayed until after the tournament. The cat is out of the bag. We've pretty much admitted the facts upon which sanctions were imposed. I'm thinking that Tournament ban is to address competitive advantage gained by signing an "apparently"* inadmissible Parade All-American recruit

*See Footnote 32

[JasonB]

Adding one thing to my original summary:
- Ulrich told Keith to sign up for the class
- Secretary took the courses for Keith
- Secretary watched Keith's kid sometimes
- Secretary told Keith to lie
- Keith wasn't comfortable, set up a 3 way call with Admin and Ulrich
- Ulrich says he wants nothing to do with it.
- Ulrich never reports it.
- LB hears about it later, and waits one month before reporting.
- SMU self-reports violation and puts Ulrich and Secretary on leave.
- Secretary won't talk to NCAA

NCAA perspective:
- There is no way that the Secretary took the class for sh!ts and giggles
- The secretary won't say who told her to do it.
- Ulrich won't say he told her to do it.
- THE NCAA HAS ESSENTIALLY SAID THEY DON'T THINK ULRICH WAS BEHIND IT
- SMU has not pointed the finger at who told her to do it.
- NCAA is making an assumption that it was someone in leadership at SMU (Brown or otherwise).
- Therefore, sanction SMU and sanction Brown for lack of control.

My reaction:
- SMU should come out and explain immediately WHY they have not been able to identify and fire the person responsible for giving the orders to the admin. Lack of ability to ID the culprit is a major failure on SMU's behalf.
- On the other hand, as bad as this is, Syracuse did it for 10 years and got pretty much the same penalty. SMU's penalty should literally be 1/10 the size of the Syracuse penalty. I don't see how this doesn't get reduced in court.

[Top Twenty]

I have read the narrative and findings, and, as a lawyer who worked on two of our infractions cases in years gone by, I believe that this penalty is flagrantly excessive.

One already signed recruit, one on-line course, one month's delay, and, to top it off, self reporting, and, for this, we get our program destroyed?

[smusportspage]

Can anyone, ANYONE!, please explain how the administration thought Larry Brown and his coaching (recruiting) style would be any different than it was at UCLA and Kansas, getting both of those hot shot teams three years of probation each, plus other penalties? Why did they think his record here would be any different?

hmmmmmmmm....maybe because you have John Calibari at Kentucky?

[RGV Pony]

Straight from Dr Turners mouth, we told NCAA we don't tolerate "bad actors" and remove those that are. Context of that quote was in reference to Gregory and Ulrich.

[PonyKris89]

All I am saying is IF Larry Brown is main culprit,
Then SMU should cut ties immediately, give Jank his headcoaching job, and move on with the appeals. This path might even mitigate some of penalties too.

Anybody really think Brown is going to stick around and attend those stupid mandated meetings?

And I would say the earth is already scorched.

And yes, these penalties are way excessive.

[smusportspage]

Good grief....the main culprits have been removed....get it? Just stop.

[Stallion]

Thank god NCAA waited until after start of semester to hand down sanctions. They actually did us a favor in delaying. Otherwise kids not involved in sanctions could have transferred.