UAPB Game Thread

[Kynd Tulsa Phan]

Is Dallas Christian a high school?

D'oh always has the best OOC schedules.

UALR is most likely a loss. Im not counting on a W @ Jackson State either.

[PonyPride]

Dallas Christian is a high school. The one listed here is a college that I'm told is located somewhere near LBJ and I-35.

[PonyPride]

From SMUMustangs.com:

Nyakundi Scores 27 As SMU Defeats UAPB 64-55
Mustangs Host Georgia Southern On Sunday At 2 p.m.

Nov. 22, 2011

TULSA, Okla. (AP) - Robert Nyakundi scored a season-high 27 points Tuesday night to lead SMU to a 64-55 win over Arkansas-Pine Bluff.

London Giles had 12 points and Jeremiah Samarrippas scored 10 for the Mustangs in a game that was part of the NIT Season Tip-Off tournament.

Nyakundi was 8 for 9 from the field, 4 for 5 from 3-point range, for SMU (3-3).

Savalace Townsend led the Golden Lions (1-3) with 22 points. Mitchell Anderson added 12 points and 11 rebounds for UALR, which outrebounded the Mustangs 39-27. SMU went 23 for 29 from the free-throw line, led by Nyakundi going 7 for 9, while the Golden Lions were just 5 for 11 in free throws.

The Mustangs host Georgia Southern on Sunday at 2 p.m. Tickets: 214-768-4263 (214-SMU-GAME) or SMUMustangs.com/tickets.

[hoopmanx]

Is Dallas Christian a high school?

D'oh always has the best OOC schedules.

UALR is most likely a loss. Im not counting on a W @ Jackson State either.

We could def lose to either LR or Jackson St. That said, the OOC this year is pretty darn good. Hell, Miami played Florida Gulf Coast last night and Maryland plays them Friday

[GiddyUp]

Im glad to see Rob finally wake up. This team needs him to step up every night.

[shadowman]

I figured they won. I didn't hear an atomic-bomb sized explosion that would have been Hoopmanx.

Novel idea. The next 5 games were scheduled to win, so let's actually win them. 8-3 going into Oklahoma St is ok.

I second that. We need to get on a roll against these cruddy teams, pad the win column and get things figured out before they really start to matter.

[GiddyUp]

Stanford plays okc st in semis. Ok st is going to kill us with 1000 smu fans at aac

[hoopmanx]

Stanford plays okc st in semis. Ok st is going to kill us with 1000 smu fans at aac

OSU isn't that good. The may be substantially better than us, but I hold out some hope. After all, they were dead to rights vs UTSA, who only beat Fresno by 3. I hate compared scores, but there are many very average teams in America. We need to gel, find the rotation, integrate Shawne/Leslee, and bring them down to our level w/pace. Our pace kills us vs less talented teams, cause we can't runaway and hide.

[EastStang]

That pace is what will keep us in games against better talent. If you let the kids run and gun when they have the talent over the opponent, they won't execute the offense when they play better talent. Early in the season, you want the players to learn the offense so that they run it in their sleep. That way, when you play the conference schedule, they'll run the offense well and it will force the other team to defend it. I don't particularly like a slow play Princeton style offense, especially against a zone defense, but it does help teams with lesser talent compete with the big boys. I don't fault Doh for playing at a slower pace now while his team is still learning the offense.

[Mitch McConnell]

I'm here in Pine Bluff for Thanksgiving. Rolled in last night. That school is in a bad part of town.

Just glad I don't have to go through the embarrassment of being knowing we lost to this team.

[hoopmanx]

That pace is what will keep us in games against better talent. If you let the kids run and gun when they have the talent over the opponent, they won't execute the offense when they play better talent. Early in the season, you want the players to learn the offense so that they run it in their sleep. That way, when you play the conference schedule, they'll run the offense well and it will force the other team to defend it. I don't particularly like a slow play Princeton style offense, especially against a zone defense, but it does help teams with lesser talent compete with the big boys. I don't fault Doh for playing at a slower pace now while his team is still learning the offense.

In theory, agreed. Princeton has long been known to work both ways. It keeps the princeton club from blowing teams out, but keeps them in games vs more talented opponents. Unfortunately, the issue I'm most concerned with is the chef not doing the shopping. Spoke w/a coaching buddy morning after the ORU loss, who just got off the phone w/his ORU assistant buddy. Anyway, the ORU assistant felt that our best talent doesn't remotely fit the princeton. Said none of Manuel/Jones/Cunningham are best utilized in the princeton etc. Furthermore, Mangino relying on Doh to supply him w/princeton players makes no sense. Doh only knows best available, cause he's never had to recruit to systems.

I hadnt thought about that stuff too much, until watching Manuel spur the comeback vs FGC using the high pick n roll. Last night, in his only minutes they switched offenses when he entered. The rest of the game we ran the princeton, which is why Frog logged so many minutes, and Vilde led the team in assists

[whitwiki]

I haven't been following too closely, but what style would be best for those three?

[1983 Cotton Bowl]

Lots of new pieces this year and I don't have high hopes for the OSU game. But as this team gels, I think they're going to be good. Maybe this isn't the year, but I like the trajectory.

[hoopmanx]

I haven't been following too closely, but what style would be best for those three?

probably some sort of ball screen motion. Manuel is a difficult cover off the high pick, gets in the lane, which breaks defenses down more than any other thing. Frog isn't bad at it either. Jones' best moments come as a slasher that attacks, not back to the basket or jump shooting. He's going to be pretty good at all 3, eventually. Cunningham is a talented face up 4, that can probably adapt to either style, so long as everyone knows he's a skill guy, not bump & grind

[EastStang]

Which comes first, the players or the system? And that's the eternal problem. If you recruit to the system, then you miss on some great talent. If you recruit the best talent and fall short, you have roller coaster years. The optimum is for a coach to run a system that best utilizes the current talent. However, few coaches seem able to do that. You also have the issue of what offense works against specific defensive sets put up by the opponents. Theoretically, a team should have about 4 variants on its basic offensive set and a controlled run and gun set. When I've coached, I tend to use a princeton type offense against man to man defenses and a run and gun set against zones with every player having his 90% spot on the floor. You run it up the floor, let the players go to their spots and feed the player who gets there first and then kick it out with some screens on the zone to open up shots. But you can't have a different offense for each set of personnel you put out there. With a young team, you keep the offense basically the same and let the players learn that and as the season goes on you add variety as they get used to each other.