MK had to turn in a paper today, waiting on grade per DMN

[ponyboy]

If your kids are ineligible, its on your program, support, and admin

^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^

Mostly yes. A very rare few kids however choose the academic high road and simply fail. The alternative would be to prevent a player from actually trying to get an education and railroading them into advanced basketweaving. I say good on MK. Proud of him.

[Rebel10]

If your kids are ineligible, its on your program, support, and admin

^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^

Mostly yes. A very rare few kids however choose the academic high road and simply fail. The alternative would be to prevent a player from actually trying to get an education and railroading them into advanced basketweaving. I say good on MK. Proud of him.

I agree. Let's just hope he was made fully aware of the workload of the major he is in has before he selected it.

[ponyboy]

Right.

[PonyTime]

anyone remember lee nailon. wanted to go to ut to play bball. one problem. he could not read. went to tcu.

MK would run circles around Lee Nailon in a game of Jeopardy, Spelling Bee, Where's Waldo, or any other event that would require thinking.

BTW - Here's your most recent Lee Nailon update:

"In the 2006-07 season, Nailon led Bnei HaSharon to the Israeli Cup final, shocking the everlasting champions, Maccabi Tel Aviv, in the semifinal (eventually losing to Hapoel Jerusalem in the final)."

This after his stellar NBA career that consisted of a Domestic Violence arrest, a Failure to pay Child Support charge, and an Evading Arrest and Possession of Marijuana charge.

Rah, Rah TCU...

[couch 'em]

My issue is, effort or ability, it should have been discovered and felt with before the semester even ended

[Digetydog]

My issue is, effort or ability, it should have been discovered and felt with before the semester even ended

From what I have read, they have known about this problem for some time.

If he was using a tutor to "help" with the paper and still couldn't get it done, I wonder about his effort because he is not a stupid guy.

[SMUstang07]

If your kids are ineligible its on everyone except the kids themselves.

I don't know the details behind this instance, but it sounds like recently MK is doing all the right things to try and get/stay eligible. However, to blame everyone except him is ridiculous. He is at least in some way at fault here (if he is ineligible), but let's hope he grows from this. Seems like he is doing the right things to get back on the court so good for him.

[mustangxc]

Also, I'm sure there are many cases where kids literally don't care at all and are bad kids that don't do any work and become ineligible. I don't see Markus as being one of those kids and he seems like a good person (have been fooled before). So if we have a kid we recruited here, told his mom (who we all know is fighting for our country) we would take care of him, he gave effort in the classroom (assuming he tried) and helped us athletically, we shouldn't slam the door on him.

If he didn't go to class/gave no effort whatsoever, then shame on him.

No one is slamming the door on him. SMU has not pulled his scholarship and I am pretty sure that even if he remains ineligible, SMU will help him graduate if that is what he really wants. Frankly, everyone arguing that this is on SMU is really saying what June Jones has been saying all along.

Personally, I am with Stallion in that we have to keep some sort of standards, at least those set by the NCAA in order for our student-athletes to stay eligible.

[SMU 86]

If your kids are ineligible its on everyone except the kids themselves.

I don't know the details behind this instance, but it sounds like recently MK is doing all the right things to try and get/stay eligible. However, to blame everyone except him is ridiculous. He is at least in some way at fault here (if he is ineligible), but let's hope he grows from this. Seems like he is doing the right things to get back on the court so good for him.

It looks like a lot of the statements are saying it's all on Markus and nothing on the school.

[SMU 86]

Also, I'm sure there are many cases where kids literally don't care at all and are bad kids that don't do any work and become ineligible. I don't see Markus as being one of those kids and he seems like a good person (have been fooled before). So if we have a kid we recruited here, told his mom (who we all know is fighting for our country) we would take care of him, he gave effort in the classroom (assuming he tried) and helped us athletically, we shouldn't slam the door on him.

If he didn't go to class/gave no effort whatsoever, then shame on him.

No one is slamming the door on him. SMU has not pulled his scholarship and I am pretty sure that even if he remains ineligible, SMU will help him graduate if that is what he really wants. Frankly, everyone arguing that this is on SMU is really saying what June Jones has been saying all along.

Personally, I am with Stallion in that we have to keep some sort of standards, at least those set by the NCAA in order for our student-athletes to stay eligible.

Do we know if this is an NCAA eligibility rule or an SMU eligibility rule that has been violated?

[coloradoStang]

If your kids are ineligible its on everyone except the kids themselves.

I don't know the details behind this instance, but it sounds like recently MK is doing all the right things to try and get/stay eligible. However, to blame everyone except him is ridiculous. He is at least in some way at fault here (if he is ineligible), but let's hope he grows from this. Seems like he is doing the right things to get back on the court so good for him.

I looks like a lot of the statements are saying it's all on Markus and nothing on the school.

I heard he didn't give two [deleted] about summer school this year from a kid who was in class with him this summer in a US history class. Not sure if that is the issue though

[mustangxc]

Also, I'm sure there are many cases where kids literally don't care at all and are bad kids that don't do any work and become ineligible. I don't see Markus as being one of those kids and he seems like a good person (have been fooled before). So if we have a kid we recruited here, told his mom (who we all know is fighting for our country) we would take care of him, he gave effort in the classroom (assuming he tried) and helped us athletically, we shouldn't slam the door on him.

If he didn't go to class/gave no effort whatsoever, then shame on him.

No one is slamming the door on him. SMU has not pulled his scholarship and I am pretty sure that even if he remains ineligible, SMU will help him graduate if that is what he really wants. Frankly, everyone arguing that this is on SMU is really saying what June Jones has been saying all along.

Personally, I am with Stallion in that we have to keep some sort of standards, at least those set by the NCAA in order for our student-athletes to stay eligible.

Have you ever heard of an SMU student-athlete being held out despite being eligible according to NCAA standards? As a student-athlete I was never told about having to maintain a certain GPA in order to be able to compete. I was only told about NCAA standards for GPA and academic progress etc.

Do we know if this is an NCAA eligibility rule or an SMU eligibility rule that has been violated?

[SMU 86]

If your kids are ineligible its on everyone except the kids themselves.

I don't know the details behind this instance, but it sounds like recently MK is doing all the right things to try and get/stay eligible. However, to blame everyone except him is ridiculous. He is at least in some way at fault here (if he is ineligible), but let's hope he grows from this. Seems like he is doing the right things to get back on the court so good for him.

I looks like a lot of the statements are saying it's all on Markus and nothing on the school.

I heard he didn't give two [deleted] about summer school this year from a kid who was in class with him this summer in a US history class. Not sure if that is the issue though

How would the kid know that? Did Markus tell him that or is he just assuming that?

[SMU 86]

Have you ever heard of an SMU student-athlete being held out despite being eligible according to NCAA standards? As a student-athlete I was never told about having to maintain a certain GPA in order to be able to compete. I was only told about NCAA standards for GPA and academic progress etc.

Things may have changed since you were in school. So you are saying it was an NCAA rule that was violated and not an SMU rule?

[coloradoStang]

If your kids are ineligible its on everyone except the kids themselves.

I don't know the details behind this instance, but it sounds like recently MK is doing all the right things to try and get/stay eligible. However, to blame everyone except him is ridiculous. He is at least in some way at fault here (if he is ineligible), but let's hope he grows from this. Seems like he is doing the right things to get back on the court so good for him.

I looks like a lot of the statements are saying it's all on Markus and nothing on the school.

I heard he didn't give two [deleted] about summer school this year from a kid who was in class with him this summer in a US history class. Not sure if that is the issue though

How would the kid know that? Did Markus tell him that or is he just assuming that?[/quote]

its very obvious to tell if a kid is even sort of trying or paying attention in class. Its especially easy to tell when its a small summer class. However I will say I have literally just surfed ponyfans all semester during easy classes and have done well in them. So I agree his demeanor in class doesn't tell the whole story, but it does tell some of it. Again I don't even know if this class is the issue, but just making a comment on his demeanor in class according to one person. It's up for interpretation on what that means.