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[smusic 00]

I paid for my ticket I can do whatever I want damnit!

[gostangs]

I don't think anyone is saying we should be relaying any derivatives of duck foot or whatever, but asking Ollie who his valentine is makes me laugh and I think it is both mean and clever. So I choose to believe we can be mean and also not be crude. Trust me, all your little dukies are more crude than this, and probably not as clever.

[PonyTime]

So - have we decided if Bill Cosby is "on the Table" for this week?

He certainly was for SNL. I say we go with it...

[ponyinNC]

I am all about research, loud creative cheers and jeers, but I'm sorry, I don't think everything is fair game. Now, a little sexual innuendo and double entendre is fine, but I don't think marital status is, if that was in fact the intent of the chant and not just a coincidence. You don't have to be crude or cheap to be loud, ethusiastic and biting. I don't want to hear one person who is endorsing "anything goes" ever call another student section or fan base classless. I don't understand why we would encourage disrespecting the wishes of the man responsible for our current success by disrepsecting his friends and colleagues, or by disregarding his requests to be loud without being crass.

The claim that Duke students do it is simply not true. Duke students WERE notorious for over the line, vulgar, anything goes chants, but have not been since the mid-80s, when they were exhorted by Terry Sanford to be "clever but clean," "devastating but decent," "witty and forceful but G-rated for television," and have been reminded by their coach before the season each year. The worst I've heard Duke students do in the last 20 years (granted I haven't heard every one of them) was when there was a Vandy player whose last name was Bates, and we (I was there) chanted on opposite sides "Master -- Bates." Then when he missed a free throw, we chanted "too much wrist." Most of the time these days though, you hear standard defense cheers, Duke players' names, "Let's Go Duke" and "Our House." You don't hear the Duke crowd chanting [deleted] after crappy calls because they respect the wishes of their coach. You don't like the alternatives they've come up with (e.g. "We Beg to Differ", "I'm Blind. I'm Deaf. I wanna be a ref"), fine, then think of some other clever alternative. It's their proximity, volume and total commitment to unison that makes them effective, not chanting "down my leg" or the like at coaches.

Got news, I don't give a rats behind how Larry Brown wants his friends/colleagues treated. He's an assassin that's about to get us throttled for recruiting a kid we all knew he shouldn't have touched. He had no job options and its turned out great on the court. I hold the man in high regard b/c he is a helluva coach, top 5 living american coach and a HOF guy. Why would you 'respect' your coach to the point of putting a flawed mf'er on a pedestal? He's not the morality police, if anything he's closer to being a wolf in old mans clothing.

Don't get me wrong, I love the guy and bring it on come May, but I have my own mind. As for the Dook nonsense, sit behind the visitors bench wearing Terp colors and tell me it's all clean. STFU already.

Good job whoever got on Ollie about his wife. That's about as proud as I can be of an SMU student section.

Throttled? Last time I checked you thought Ulric was taking one for the team and at worst we would lose a scholly or two after all is said and done? Now you're saying we will get "throttled"?

What's with the change?

[hoopmanx]

Throttled? Last time I checked you thought Ulric was taking one for the team and at worst we would lose a scholly or two after all is said and done? Now you're saying we will get "throttled"?

What's with the change?

I have far more pieces to this thing than most, but have no idea how this is turning out. The scenario laid out above seems like the very best possible outcome, if this was actually deemed a rogue situation and before Keith got to campus. I'm hopeful we pleaded out, offered up Ulric and Keith, and can move on down the road, maybe w/o a ship or so. That said, it's all really a matter of how deep the NCAA got into the rabbit hole. If they connect some dots and we can't cover loose ends and lips and its determined academic fraud went on at SMU as well, ruh roh...

[EastStang]

After a player of his was brutally heckled, the player complained to his manager, the legendary Connie Mack (aka Cornelius McGillicuddy), to which Connie replied, "the man paid for that ticket, he can say whatever he wants". Years later, he did get a heckler arrested, but Mack knew every fan's dollar was something that paid the salaries of these players (before TV rights packages). I agree with Hoopmanx about Duke fans. Living on the shores of the Potomac, my UMD and UVA friends have some stories to tell about how "restrained" Duke students are. I once got an Aggie player to flip me off during the game while he was on court. I kept on him about his lack of size. We won the game and the Aggies melted down that night. Distractions are part of the game my friends. As to Bill Cosby, I'll repeat my Ravens/Steelers story. When Ben Rothlesburger took the field after his little problem, the Baltimore fans chanted "No means No". The Steelers won the game on a Troy Polomalo sack/fumble, but Big Ben was totally off that night.

[Junior]

you don't see random people o the street and make fun of them for getting a divorce?

if you do, i need to follow you around for a day. that would be great comedy.

[ObeyMyDog]

I love it, our students finally get loud, sustain it, and create an awesome atmosphere and people are offended. Completely agree with hoopmanx et al . . .

[PonyTime]

Throttled? Last time I checked you thought Ulric was taking one for the team and at worst we would lose a scholly or two after all is said and done? Now you're saying we will get "throttled"?

What's with the change?

I have far more pieces to this thing than most, but have no idea how this is turning out. The scenario laid out above seems like the very best possible outcome, if this was actually deemed a rogue situation and before Keith got to campus. I'm hopeful we pleaded out, offered up Ulric and Keith, and can move on down the road, maybe w/o a ship or so. That said, it's all really a matter of how deep the NCAA got into the rabbit hole. If they connect some dots and we can't cover loose ends and lips and its determined academic fraud went on at SMU as well, ruh roh...

Whatever was going on at Lincoln HS would impact not just SMU, but most schools that recruited Student Athletes out of Lincoln. Wouldn't OSU, Texas, Baylor, A&M, etc., etc also fall into said "rabbit hole". I am sure that KF was not the only athlete at Lincoln that got some "help" with meeting the requirements for graduation. Why is KF the only one getting scrutiny out of the 80+ that likely were in same boat. Wait - I just answered my own question:



"The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky that it put Cleveland State on two more years' probation." - Jerry Tarkanian

[Grant Carter]

Lincoln?

[SMU15]

Surely he meant Kimball

[FriscoPMG]

But please delete all past and future "stay classy" threads in this forum if we choose to go that way. I never want to hear any more complaints about Texas Tech fans, Houston fans, Tulsa fans, or anyone else. Mmmkay.

This. I'm all for a loud, rowdy student section that does a little research and comes up with clever chants, heckles, etc., but resorting to basic vulgarity ("he's a p*ssy", "bullsh*t") or bringing up topics that cross the line (granted, there's no clear line other than common sense, which college students can lack) puts us right in line with Texas Tech.
With how the team plays on the court, I'd much rather have opposing fans leaving Moody complimentary of our team, the atmosphere and our classy fans. Guarantee those opposing fans who leave offended by our students just leave with a bitter taste in their mouths about the entire university.
Based on these threads, I know I'm in the minority, but I agree with DiamondM that we can no longer call out Tech or anyone else for their classlessness if we're encouraging it at our sporting events. I believe the home court advantage comes from the noise and energy, not from the vulgarity or low blows.

[ponyboy]

Agreed 100%

[okcponyfan]

Do we know the kid who was yelling it even knew about the divorce? (I tried to find it in the thread but couldn't)

My thoughts on chants etc. If you can say it in front of a 10 year then its OK. If a 10 year old would have heard the student yelling, "Whose your valentine?" the 10 year old would not know the underlying meaning. But if a 10 year old hears the chant "F-U- TCU" or whatever school, there is no hiding the meaning from the 10 year old.

I get the feeling some on this board would be upset if we started chanting "KELVIN SAMSUNG" at Kelvin Sampson.

[SMU15]

Do we know the kid who was yelling it even knew about the divorce? (I tried to find it in the thread but couldn't)

It was brought up in our Mob facebook group