This Year's Super-Secret Scrimmage

[mustangxc]

I'd take a UConn type of team. Final Four every 5 years or so.

That's what I'm hoping for. I think the early entry NBA guys won't contribute too much to our on-court success, but I think they will be very helpful in contributing to our recruiting which eventually translates into Final Four type success. Ideally we can sign and develop Brandon Roy type players that stay four years and become successful in the NBA minus the injuries. While attendance kills us in football due to our small size, Moody is gem in NCAA hoops and will be an asset in recruiting.

[Rebel10]

I'd take a UConn type of team. Final Four every 5 years or so.

That's what I'm hoping for. I think the early entry NBA guys won't contribute too much to our on-court success, but I think they will be very helpful in contributing to our recruiting which eventually translates into Final Four type success. Ideally we can sign and develop Brandon Roy type players that stay four years and become successful in the NBA minus the injuries. While attendance kills us in football due to our small size, Moody is gem in NCAA hoops and will be an asset in recruiting.

Attendance did kill USF for Coach Taggert. He brought in the number one recruiting class in the conference on multiple occasions with very poor attendance. And it hasn't stop Coach Morris from getting players with P5 offers. Only you know who complained. It has a lot to do with building relationships more so than anything. Now back to hoops. The team seems ready to roll.

[mustangxc]

I'd take a UConn type of team. Final Four every 5 years or so.

That's what I'm hoping for. I think the early entry NBA guys won't contribute too much to our on-court success, but I think they will be very helpful in contributing to our recruiting which eventually translates into Final Four type success. Ideally we can sign and develop Brandon Roy type players that stay four years and become successful in the NBA minus the injuries. While attendance kills us in football due to our small size, Moody is gem in NCAA hoops and will be an asset in recruiting.

Attendance did kill USF for Coach Taggert. He brought in the number one recruiting class in the conference on multiple occasions with very poor attendance. And it hasn't stop Coach Morris from getting players with P5 offers. Only you know who complained. It has a lot to do with building relationships more so than anything. Now back to hoops. The team seems ready to roll.

I'm talking about final four/national championships. I don't see USF perenially competing for a playoff berth but what do I know. I know that June gave minimal effort in recruiting and that we can do much much better than that and even be a Top 25 program in football. It is not all or nothing, there is an in between.

[Rebel10]

USF is a G5 school and no G5 school competes for perennial playoff berths no matter how good the attendance is in case you did not know that. And it is mostly about relationships. If it was about attendance Dayton and SMU would have all 4 and 5 star recruits in hoops. Heck Stansbury just got a 5 star recruit to commit to Western Kentucky because the guy know how to recruit.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb ... -five-star

[mustangxc]

USF is a G5 school and no G5 school competes for perennial playoff berths no matter how good the attendance is in case you did not know that. And it is mostly about relationships. If it was about attendance Dayton and SMU would have all 4 and 5 star recruits in hoops. Heck Stansbury just got a 5 star recruit to commit to Western Kentucky because the guy know how to recruit.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb ... -five-star

Coaches and players want to play in front of packed houses. If we as a fan base continue to deliver a tremendous atmosphere we will manage to attract and retain top level coaches that have great relationships to sign great recruiting classes.

USF is a G5 school because it has a small fanbase. If a school has a great fanbase it ends up making it into a Power 5 conference because it is all about money. Not sure why that is so hard for you to understand. I'm not denying that a school with a small fan base could conceivably make the college football playoff and with some luck win a national championship. However, the perennial contenders in football are pretty much all large state schools with massive fan bases. In basketball that is not the case.

[deucetz]

USF is a G5 school and no G5 school competes for perennial playoff berths no matter how good the attendance is in case you did not know that. And it is mostly about relationships. If it was about attendance Dayton and SMU would have all 4 and 5 star recruits in hoops. Heck Stansbury just got a 5 star recruit to commit to Western Kentucky because the guy know how to recruit.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb ... -five-star

St. Louis University just got a 5 star recruit as well

https://www.google.com/amp/www.stltoday ... 2.amp.html

[Rebel10]

USF is not a G5 because of fan base. Your ignorance is astounding. They have a larger fab base than Pitt had when they went to the AAC. Pittsburgh's attendance was not good. Also what I am saying is that the attendance June Jones brainwashing mess you are talking about regarding recruiting is somewhat ignorant as it relates to "killing" us. That's stupid because Coach Morris is proving it wrong and Coach Taggert has proved it wrong.

[Rebel10]

USF is a G5 school and no G5 school competes for perennial playoff berths no matter how good the attendance is in case you did not know that. And it is mostly about relationships. If it was about attendance Dayton and SMU would have all 4 and 5 star recruits in hoops. Heck Stansbury just got a 5 star recruit to commit to Western Kentucky because the guy know how to recruit.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb ... -five-star

St. Louis University just got a 5 star recruit as well

https://www.google.com/amp/www.stltoday ... 2.amp.html

Exactly.

[mustangxc]

USF is not a G5 because of fan base. Your ignorance is astounding. They have a larger fab base than Pitt had when they went to the AAC. Pittsburgh's attendance was not good. Also what I am saying is that the attendance June Jones brainwashing mess you are talking about regarding recruiting is somewhat ignorant as it relates to "killing" us. That's stupid because Coach Morris is proving it wrong and Coach Taggert has proved it wrong.

Who said attendance was killing us? Pitt got into the ACC because of its rivalries with the former Big East schools and bringing a portion of the Pennsylvania market. When is the last time Pittsburgh seriously challenged for a national championship in football? I have no doubt SMU can have the kind of success UH has achieved in football possibly more but attendance is an additional obstacle. Are you saying SMU can perennially compete with Ohio State, Alabama, Michigan, etc. in football? I think consistently contending for a national championship in football will be much more difficult and I do think attendance plays an important role (not the only role, not the most important role) in that. I think we can more easily contend for a national championship perennially in basketball and a packed Moody Coliseum plays a prominent role in that.

[Rebel10]

While attendance kills us in football

Rutgers got into P5 without good attendance in football nor basketball. And on a side note SMU is in a larger market than a lot of P5 schools. Not talking about periennal national championships neither did your original post saying that attendance kills us. It did not kill Taggert nor Morris. That's just an excuse for a lazy recruiter. UH was getting good recruits in football and they did not have stellar attendance. UH had a good hoops recruiting class for 2016 and their attendance last year was flat out bad but Sampson knows how to recruit. Texas A&M had the a top 5 recruiting class in 2015 in basketball and their attendance was not good but they had a coach that could recruit. SMU can do the same. Jay Duncan got Douglas and Douglas may not have even been to a game at Moody.

[mustangxc]

While attendance kills us in football

Rutgers got into P5 without good attendance in football nor basketball. And on a side note SMU is in a larger market than a lot of P5 schools. Not talking about periennal national championships neither did your original post saying that attendance kills us. It did not kill Taggert nor Morris. That's just an excuse for a lazy recruiter. UH was getting good recruits in football and they did not have stellar attendance. UH had a good hoops recruiting class for 2016 and their attendance last year was flat out bad but Sampson knows how to recruit. Texas A&M had the a top 5 recruiting class in 2015 in basketball and their attendance was not good but they had a coach that could recruit. SMU can do the same. Jay Duncan got Douglas and Douglas may not have even been to a game at Moody.

Touche! All I'm saying is that success is more sustainable in basketball given the equalizers in basketball as opposed to football. Our ceiling in basketball is higher than in football and attendance is an important component.

[deucetz]

While attendance kills us in football

Rutgers got into P5 without good attendance in football nor basketball. And on a side note SMU is in a larger market than a lot of P5 schools. Not talking about periennal national championships neither did your original post saying that attendance kills us. It did not kill Taggert nor Morris. That's just an excuse for a lazy recruiter. UH was getting good recruits in football and they did not have stellar attendance. UH had a good hoops recruiting class for 2016 and their attendance last year was flat out bad but Sampson knows how to recruit. Texas A&M had the a top 5 recruiting class in 2015 in basketball and their attendance was not good but they had a coach that could recruit. SMU can do the same. Jay Duncan got Douglas and Douglas may not have even been to a game at Moody.

Touche! All I'm saying is that success is more sustainable in basketball given the equalizers in basketball as opposed to football. Our ceiling in basketball is higher than in football and attendance is an important component.

I agree with that. If we have to choose what to spend money on between basketball and football, it should go to basketball. It's easier to sustain success in basketball then football. It is also cheaper. We already have the facilities. It's easier to get into march madness then football playoffs.

[sadderbudweiser]

basketball school.

[ponyfan37]

"SMU and Texas played a closed scrimmage earlier in the week. Told SMU got better of Longhorns -- who were without Kerwin Roach. Standouts for SMU: Shake Milton and Semi Ojeleye. Freshman Jarrett Allen was very good for Texas -- which struggled at point guard spot." -Jeff Goodman

[ponyinNC]

Goodman was told by me...