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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby ojaipony » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:06 pm

friarwolf wrote:Saw KF going to class the other day........


Seen MK around?
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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby MFFL02 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:50 pm

Lebanese4Life wrote:Would like to have KF back next year, but although he is a 3 point threat, his defense is horrid. Gu is a better defender. And losing KF wouldn't be a huge loss considering we got Sed and Shake coming in.


Brown and KF will both start next year...

PG: Moore
SG: KF
SF: Brown
PF: Moore
C: Kennedy

Tolbert, Semi, Gu and the freshman will come off the bench.
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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby Pony_Law » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:00 pm

MFFL02 wrote:
Lebanese4Life wrote:Would like to have KF back next year, but although he is a 3 point threat, his defense is horrid. Gu is a better defender. And losing KF wouldn't be a huge loss considering we got Sed and Shake coming in.


Brown and KF will both start next year...

PG: Moore
SG: KF
SF: Brown
PF: Moore
C: Kennedy

Tolbert, Semi, Gu and the freshman will come off the bench.


I agree that is the starting line up with everyone elidgble and healthy.
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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby MFFL02 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:05 pm

We are going to ask for a lot out of Ben Moore next season. I hope he spends this off-season working on his post moves and jumpshot. He needs to be way more assertive offensively and work on his touch around the rim. He needs to jump from 7.1 ppg to 11-12 ppg. Also, a 44% FG for a power forward is horrible.
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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby Lebanese4Life » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:19 pm

Can semi play PF? Don't know much about his game except that he's in athletic freak.
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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby gostangs » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:38 pm

yeah - I would guess Semi is the post and wel have Ben mostly at the 3. Just a guess.
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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby MFFL02 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:52 pm

gostangs wrote:yeah - I would guess Semi is the post and wel have Ben mostly at the 3. Just a guess.


Semi is a SF. He shoots 3's too.
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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby JasonB » Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:28 pm

MFFL02 wrote:
gostangs wrote:yeah - I would guess Semi is the post and wel have Ben mostly at the 3. Just a guess.


Semi is a SF. He shoots 3's too.


Semi has the same height as Ben, but both of them like to play on the perimeter more than in the post. Semi even more than Ben.
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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby Rebel10 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:12 pm

So sounds like Tolbert will be the only true post player next year if MK leaves.
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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby East Coast Mustang » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:46 pm

LA_Mustang wrote:
East Coast Mustang wrote:We were a better team without Keith

That's such a ridiculous statement. We were a better team after he left because MK came back and changed everything. I do think Sterling is/was a better fit in the starting lineup in place of KF but to suggest Gu coming off the bench is better than KF in that role is insane.

BTW, I don't think he will be back but if he is, he can be a valuable piece to next year's team.

Sterling is a better player and much more valuable to this team than Keith. Sterling playing more minutes once Keith was ineligible definitely helped us. Keith is a mediocre defender (although he improved in this area over his freshman year), and the notion that he's some offensive weapon is misguided IMO

Sterling FG%: 52.5%
Sterling 3pt%: 44.4%

Keith FG%: 44.9%
Keith 3pt: 33.3%

Yes, you'd rather have had Keith out there over Emelogu this year, but Emelogu is a much better defender than Keith and when he's out there with other guys that could score (Nic, MK, Cannen) he wasn't a terrible liability. But gosh, we expected so much more from him based on his 2013-14 performance at VT.

Looking forward, we might be better off in the long run having our two stud freshman guards, Milton and Barefield, get KF's minutes at the 2 spot if he's ineligible so they can develop and play Sterling at the 3.
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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby smupony94 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:54 pm

The players absolutely love Keith and want him on the team
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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby East Coast Mustang » Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:06 pm

smupony94 wrote:The players absolutely love Keith and want him on the team

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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby hoopmanx » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:48 am

East Coast Mustang wrote:
LA_Mustang wrote:
East Coast Mustang wrote:We were a better team without Keith

That's such a ridiculous statement. We were a better team after he left because MK came back and changed everything. I do think Sterling is/was a better fit in the starting lineup in place of KF but to suggest Gu coming off the bench is better than KF in that role is insane.

BTW, I don't think he will be back but if he is, he can be a valuable piece to next year's team.

Sterling is a better player and much more valuable to this team than Keith. Sterling playing more minutes once Keith was ineligible definitely helped us. Keith is a mediocre defender (although he improved in this area over his freshman year), and the notion that he's some offensive weapon is misguided IMO

Sterling FG%: 52.5%
Sterling 3pt%: 44.4%

Keith FG%: 44.9%
Keith 3pt: 33.3%

Yes, you'd rather have had Keith out there over Emelogu this year, but Emelogu is a much better defender than Keith and when he's out there with other guys that could score (Nic, MK, Cannen) he wasn't a terrible liability. But gosh, we expected so much more from him based on his 2013-14 performance at VT.

Looking forward, we might be better off in the long run having our two stud freshman guards, Milton and Barefield, get KF's minutes at the 2 spot if he's ineligible so they can develop and play Sterling at the 3.


Completely agree. Keith is a fine teammate, but his hoops IQ vs. Sterlings is night and day. I like Keith, think he's a very good teammate, but some of you are still in love w/the idea of Keith, not what he actually is as a player
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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby hoopmanx » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:49 am

smupony94 wrote:The players absolutely love Keith and want him on the team


I'd expect that, but that doesn't mean we're better when he plays
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Re: What's Keith doing these days?

Postby MFFL02 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:20 am

After watching the tape, I expect opposing teams to consistently double MK down-low. The more shooters that you can surround him with, the better. Having NM, KF and SB on the three-point line for kickouts will be helpful as opposed to someone like Manuel or Gu, who can't shoot a lick.
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