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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby GRGB » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:17 am

Re-listed:

No one comment further until they have been re-educated by the spririt squad

11 great SMU traditions to inspire you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBhQxBaNnAo

After fast forwarding through this, if I were an incoming student, I would be so inspired to attend SMU Basketball game sans any fraternity or sorority letters so much so that I would de-pledge if ordered to attend.
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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:25 am

How do we know that if we simply asked the SAE's to show up with school colors that they would get mad and not do it. It never hurts to ask right?
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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby ponyboy » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:44 am

Thankful to have the support from the SAEs
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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby LA_Mustang » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:47 am

GRGB wrote:btw, while we are telling the people WHO ACTUALLY SHOW UP TO GAMES what to do, why don't we just order them to attend FB games as well.

I don't understand this line of thinking. It's kind of like the argument that JJ got us to bowl games so we shouldn't expect more.

I was never in a frat and I don't hate on the experience but when any organization becomes bigger/more important than your school, that seems misguided. I looked up some of the national schools (public and private) where Greek life is huge and got pics of their student sections at bball games.

Vandy
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Syracuse
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Gonzaga
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Indiana
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Baylor
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Notice anything in common? We claim to try to be "top 25" in everything we do, but you want us to wear school colors to a sporting event? Please, we're SMU.



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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:49 am

Again, I don't think asking would hurt.
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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby CalallenStang » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:59 am

GRGB wrote:
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GRGB wrote:[quote="ponyinNC"]I agree with Berger (for once). It looked very small time on tv. I've been to plenty of a Duke and UNC games and have never seen pledges in anything but school colors.

Don't get me wrong I appreciate the enthusiasm and attendance. But it is so self-serving and stupid to be wearing those jerseys. Once upon a time I was a pledge and probably did the same thing. But looking back, I must have looked as douche-tastic as those kids looked last night.

Wear your school colors. Period. Make jerseys for the game in red or blue. Everybody wins.



We aren't duke, unc, or ku. we aren't stanford, or vandy, or even UNM

We are Marshall. I mean, SMU.


YOU MAKE THE CALL!

a) Fraternity's show up and cheer in their colors
b) they don't show up and we have empty seats


Please explain how showing up and wearing SMU colors are mutually exclusive.


They are not.

However, if not wearing SAE letters means the SAE's won't be showing up, that would mean:
a) SAEs won't be wearing SAE letters so you don't have to [deleted] about it, and
b) there will be empty seats in the place where there were formerly 30+ SAE's cheering loudly for our team.

Which do you prefer?[/quote]

Re: B. That's a straw-man. You assume that those 30 tickets won't be picked up by 30 other students
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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby LA_Mustang » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:08 pm

And again, I've posted several times that the SAEs were great at last night's game. Best group of students we've had at any game this year. Just wish they didn't appear like they were cheering for TCU
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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby East Coast Mustang » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:14 pm

We do color-coordinated stuff for football games- which look terrible because the stadium is 1/2 full, but what if we started doing "white outs" or "red outs" or "blue outs" for basketball games? Have a different color each game, and have a company like Bank of Texas or Albertson's sponsor it with a T-shirt with their logo on the back for the first 2,000 fans or something
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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby DiamondM » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:21 pm

gostangs wrote:Would be great for the tradition to change, and for the school to be more important than the fraternity jersey.



Exactly. Except that "tradition" is a stretch, since this "tradition" has been sort of going on for maybe 5 years, and they seem to rotate. If you really must identify yourself with letters other than "S-M-U", how hard is it to have a red and blue version of your "Greek jersey?
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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby okcponyfan » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:28 pm

have a "red out" or "blue out" have the free t-shirt on everyone's seat. this should take care of the problem for the biggest games like vs Cinci and vs Lou.

Last nights game was on ESPN3, I am betting not too many people saw the SAE shirts.
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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby arekp01 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:31 pm

Fact: Factors outside of the control of a group of freshman created an atmosphere that has existed at SMU for a generation where Greek organizations take precedence over SMU in the minds of most students who participate.

Fact: Our basketball team's performance as well as our school's in-game atmosphere has changed dramatically this year. Many of us who have been around the basketball program for a long time have been enthused by the return to national relevance, but seeing a student section filled with individuals who care more about their particular organization than the team on the floor is a reminder of the apathy that has surrounded this program for a long time.

The SAEs were spirited last night, and it was not their decision to dress that way. Hopefully they can be the ones to end a tradition that is just flat-out embarrassing when presented to the general public in the stands and on TV.
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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:33 pm

okcponyfan wrote:have a "red out" or "blue out" have the free t-shirt on everyone's seat. this should take care of the problem for the biggest games like vs Cinci and vs Lou.

Last nights game was on ESPN3, I am betting not too many people saw the SAE shirts.


Hopefully against Rutgers things will be better since that will be on national TV.
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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby East Coast Mustang » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:36 pm

http://www.smusae.org/chapter-officers

If you guys are really upset about this, like someone said, just ask them. I don't really care but the link above shows who the chapter leadership is.
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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby gostangs » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:36 pm

Not the biggest issue on the planet - someone send the SAE pledge trainer - or their chapter advisor -or both - an email along these lines -

a) thanks for being there - it was great energy - hope they continue to come and have a great time. Beer is great.
b) any way possible the next time they can come in SAE jerseys that have any variation of our school colors?

Thanks for considering it - we are trying to look better for our national TV audience - which we now have - and it looks a ton better if everyone is somewhat uniform.

Its that simple, and there is no need to have a bunch of useless emotion or internet cat fights, although those are always entertaining.
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Re: SAE: Get a clue

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:37 pm

gostangs wrote:Not the biggest issue on the planet - someone send the SAE pledge trainer - or their chapter advisor -or both - an email along these lines -

a) thanks for being there - it was great energy - hope they continue to come and have a great time. Beer is great.
b) any way possible the next time they can come in SAE jerseys that have any variation of our school colors?

Thanks for considering it - we are trying to look better for our national TV audience - which we now have - and it looks a ton better if everyone is somewhat uniform.

Its that simple, and there is no need to have a bunch of useless emotion or internet cat fights, although those are always entertaining.

Exactly.
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