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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby Stallion » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:52 pm

Some of you should just admit you don't give a damn about Markus Kennedy-you care about waving red and blue pom-pom at the NCAA Tournament. Just admit that your comments are so you can tell your buddies and friends how great YOUR Basketball team is . Go follow the NFL and NBA. And no there is no indication that the NCAA is going to reduce the student academic requirements-in fact all tangible signs point in the other direction. Markus is going to have to work a little bit to be able to participate in college basketball. Great hope he overcomes to obstacles and takes advantage of the opportunities that Jeff Atkins, Emmanuel Tolbert, Donte Womack, David Stanley and many other super star All-Americans squandered. I'm pulling for Markus as a Student athlete
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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby smupony94 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:00 pm

Damn it, I agree with Stallion
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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby SMUstangs22 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:13 pm

What is good for MK is good for the team so either way they are rooting for MK.
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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby ponyboy » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:29 pm

smupony94 wrote:Damn it, I agree with Stallion


Me too.
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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby Nacho » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:34 pm

how did david stanley make that group? dickerson was right about him. a complete mistake.
atkins had severe medical issues so it is completely unfair to include him.
tolbert played about 15 years in the cfl. not nfl material.
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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby well travelled pony » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:46 pm

Nacho wrote:how did david stanley make that group? dickerson was right about him. a complete mistake.
atkins had severe medical issues so it is completely unfair to include him.
tolbert played about 15 years in the cfl. not nfl material.


Sorry, but Jeff Atkins wasted his talent. I watched it, and it pained me. He could never pull away from some of his old buddies who were bad news. Jeff should have had a good pro career.

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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby Nacho » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:48 pm

you know zero about jeff.
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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby ponyinNC » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:50 pm

Stallion wrote:Some of you should just admit you don't give a damn about Markus Kennedy-you care about waving red and blue pom-pom at the NCAA Tournament. Just admit that your comments are so you can tell your buddies and friends how great YOUR Basketball team is . Go follow the NFL and NBA. And no there is no indication that the NCAA is going to reduce the student academic requirements-in fact all tangible signs point in the other direction. Markus is going to have to work a little bit to be able to participate in college basketball. Great hope he overcomes to obstacles and takes advantage of the opportunities that Jeff Atkins, Emmanuel Tolbert, Donte Womack, David Stanley and many other super star All-Americans squandered. I'm pulling for Markus as a Student athlete


Of course that is all we care about. To wit, none of us who attended school after 1993 have EVER had a chance to do it.

I went to the freaking NIT in NYC last year just to watch an SMU post-season bb game for once in my lifetime.

Other schools find a way to get their athletes eligible. You are telling me that Allen Iverson was getting an education at Georgetown on par with other, normal students? Anyone at UNC over the years - a school with multiple banners in the Dean Dome. Memphis. Kentucky. Any blue blood basketball school gets it done. That is all we ask of our alma mater.
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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby Rebel10 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:59 pm

So we admit MK knowing he can't do college level work and now we are ticked off at Markus because he can't do some college level work. That is hypocritical.
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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby Rebel10 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:09 pm

White Helmet wrote:Actually I know exactly the kind of students that get admitted. I've tutored/taught them at state schools. Sure SMU is keeping mk from making money, jut like we did with Mudiay and the other pg last year, oh we're not. If he reads at a 7th grade level he doesn't belong in college. When we move to a pro college system then fine they can play for college teams.



Another bad analogy on Mudiay and Markus. Mudiay did not miss any games but went straight into the pros. Markus is going to miss games which could affect his stock. Markus could have gone pro last year and at least played overseas but decided to come back to SMU. Interesting how people are turning on this young man. Kind of like a horse that has run well and now is not but those same people that were cheering for him are ready to send him to the glue factory.
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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby ojaipony » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:10 pm

I don't know ANY of the details. But there are ways to both get the guy eligible AND make sure he's actually learning something and getting some value from his "education time" at SMU. That's all SMU's responsibility. Markus and we fans are the CUSTOMER. SMU works for US, not the other way around. When I paid SMU a boatload of money (yes I did, not my parents) I was expecting something in return. Now, when I pay my Mustang Club donations, I expect a return. Markus putting in his blood, sweat, and tears on the basketball court expects something in return. From SMU. Yes, an "education" but also an arena to showcase his talents for his next employer's evaluation. Yes, I care more about my alma mater than Markus Kennedy as a person. But I also care about him as a person and so I want to see him allowed to do what he loves: which is play basketball (and something tells me he probably likes doing that more than going to History class, although he probably likes that also just not as much) which is why he came to SMU and SMU is getting their money's worth from him. It's a simple give and take/ROI scenario.

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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby Stallion » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:11 pm

Not hypocritical at all. He has met all NCAA initial eligibility requirements, transfer requirements and SMU requirements for last 2 years. I support all attempts to increase NCAA minimum requirements-just don't want SMU to be handicapping itself in comparison to other schools. He apparently even decided to major in History-a non-traditional athlete major. What is hypocritical is for a guy like you to come on a message board and state that Markus Kenbnedy can't think-can't achieve even with a lot of assistance. Hell there are a bunch of people stating that Markus should not have been allowed to major in History. Maybe he has an aptitude in history or wants to teach kids someday. Where do you get the right to set the limits on Markus Kennedy's education. Maybe Markus wanted a real liberal arts education in history for his future plans rather than a throwaway major other kids get at other schools. Good for him-I encourage him to get a real education
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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby ponyinNC » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:31 pm

Stallion wrote:Not hypocritical at all. He has met all NCAA initial eligibility requirements, transfer requirements and SMU requirements for last 2 years. I support all attempts to increase NCAA minimum requirements-just don't want SMU to be handicapping itself in comparison to other schools. He apparently even decided to major in History-a non-traditional athlete major. What is hypocritical is for a guy like you to come on a message board and state that Markus Kenbnedy can't think-can't achieve even with a lot of assistance. Hell there are a bunch of people stating that Markus should not have been allowed to major in History. Maybe he has an aptitude in history or wants to teach kids someday. Where do you get the right to set the limits on Markus Kennedy's education. Maybe Markus wanted a real liberal arts education in history for his future plans rather than a throwaway major other kids get at other schools. Good for him-I encourage him to get a real education


I appreciate your stance here and I understand both sides of the argument - but look at how SMU is repaying him for taking that chance/risk of majoring in history. Now he cannot play the sport he came here to play.

I just don't find the harm in allowing student athletes a free pass on a grade or two in order to keep them eligible. Do I advocate what UNC did systemically for 20 plus years, with the complete sham afro studies classes? No, I don't. But look at the banners they have to show for it.
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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby Rebel10 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:33 pm

Stallion wrote:Not hypocritical at all. He has met all NCAA initial eligibility requirements, transfer requirements and SMU requirements for last 2 years. I support all attempts to increase NCAA minimum requirements-just don't want SMU to be handicapping itself in comparison to other schools. He apparently even decided to major in History-a non-traditional athlete major. What is hypocritical is for a guy like you to come on a message board and state that Markus Kenbnedy can't think-can't achieve even with a lot of assistance. Hell there are a bunch of people stating that Markus should not have been allowed to major in History. Maybe he has an aptitude in history or wants to teach kids someday. Where do you get the right to set the limits on Markus Kennedy's education. Maybe Markus wanted a real liberal arts education in history for his future plans rather than a throwaway major other kids get at other schools. Good for him-I encourage him to get a real education

If Markus likes history and wanted to major in it after being given information on the workload it requires is one thing but could he have done this without being given all the information on what it takes to major in history? I don't know but I would hope his counselor gave him all the requirements, if not the SMU counselor did him a disservice.
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Re: MK-Out first 5 games

Postby SMU 86 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:48 pm

There is a poster that was a history minor that said that history his workload was just as labor intensive as his finance workload was with all of the heavy reading and long papers you have to do in history.
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