Big 12 Tourney Quote

[SoCal_Pony]

"We thought a case could be made for Colorado," Big 12 commissioner Kevin Weiberg said. "But overall, we're pleased with the teams that got in and the positions they have in the tournament."

Weiberg said he felt Texas A&M was in the tournament all along, despite some analysts saying the Aggies were on the bubble as late as Sunday. Weiberg said A&M's unimpressive nonconference schedule and Kansas' five neutral site games may have hurt those teams.

"I do think as a conference we need to have a discussion about nonconference schedules," Weiberg said. "I do think playing too many opponents 250 and below [in the RPI] is an issue, and also with the way road games are weighted [in the RPI]."

SMU Ended the Season with an RPI of 268. It's highest ranked RPI victory came against a 13-14 Harvard team ranked at 214.

[MFFL02]

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SMU Ended the Season with an RPI of 268. It's highest ranked RPI victory came against a 13-14 Harvard team ranked at 214.

That is appalling.

[friarwolf]

Patience fellas. Jimmy's gonna show improvement next year, even though we are going to be young and we're gonna have injuries. And he's gonna recruit better so the next year - even with the loss of 2 scholarships - we're gonna get better, even though we're gonna be real young because we have to play those younger, better players. And dangit, without those injuries, we would have really done good. And then Jimmy's gonna get even better players because his friends are really helping him and yeah, we're young because we gotta play those better, younger, players and Jimmy couldn't concentrate because the mean old administration only gave him a two year extension and he's only got one year left and dang those injuries.....................

[Pony_Fan]

Patience fellas. Jimmy's gonna show improvement next year, even though we are going to be young and we're gonna have injuries. And he's gonna recruit better so the next year - even with the loss of 2 scholarships - we're gonna get better, even though we're gonna be real young because we have to play those younger, better players. And dangit, without those injuries, we would have really done good. And then Jimmy's gonna get even better players because his friends are really helping him and yeah, we're young because we gotta play those better, younger, players and Jimmy couldn't concentrate because the mean old administration only gave him a two year extension and he's only got one year left and dang those injuries.....................

friar - Is this a forecast posting for this time next year?

As for the Big 12, do we have any remaining games with OU or OSU? As far as I know we haven't played Colo, Kansas, A&M, Nebraska, or Iowa St in forever?

[MFFL02]

Bhop and Rhop are gone....Who are getting their scholarships?

[Hoop Fan]

yea, let's just fire the SOB the first chance we get. I mean, hell, we had a great program and a great group of young players when he got hired and he's already had two whole freakin years to produce results.
I mean lets get real, this is SMU. We've got great basketball facilities, great fan support, transfer friendly academics and everything.

We should learn from our football mistakes. Just think, if we would have fired Bennett after his horrible second season, we would no doubt have been to a bowl game by now. And by god, we deserve it, because we haven't been to a bowl game in a long time.

on second thought, maybe two years is too long to wait. We need to see results in one year. That way, we can hire 10 coaches in 10 years and our chances of finding that 'magic' coach will go up exponentially. Its all about finding the right young fella to deliver us what we deserve.

And lets not forget this is basketball. Blue chip basketball players think differently than football players. Basketball players know they are a whole 20% of a basketball lineup by themselves, so it should be much easier to recruit them than those football players who see it as a team game and want to be surrounded by good players and exposure. Tubbs should just snap his fingers and make it happen cuz this is basketball.

[Mickey]

on second thought, maybe two years is too long to wait.

2 years is all Billy Gillispie needed.

[friarwolf]

Get ready to duck, Mickey. All the koolaide drinkers are getting ready to throw down on you.

[Hoop Fan]

Get ready to duck, Mickey. All the koolaide drinkers are getting ready to throw down on you.

so you dismiss or ignore the Coach K example from Eaststang, but you think this Billy Gillespie example is pretty good huh? Its one thing to have an opinion, its another to have a selective bias. What did Tubbs ever do to you to have so much venom and conviction about something so grey?

[abezontar]

I would think that it would have less to do with any bias toward Tubbs, than what appears to be the complete unwillingness by some on this board to accept any criticism of Tubbs.

[Hoop Fan]

Per Stallion in the "Billy Gillespie" thread below. You get the picture about how wide the pool of Jucos he can recruit from at A&M. Same thing he did at Utep. Maybe you dont like it, and want to dimiss it, but Tubbs is not working with the same tools. So you are gonna have to wait longer. That is a feature of circumstance, not Tubbs ability to recruit, coach or teach.

"well let's take a look how they did it. Acie Law-All State led Kimball to 5A Championship where they lost on mid court last senond shot. Named All DFW as both Junior and Senior. Joseph Jones-rated No. 86 in the country HoopScoop and No. 12 in Texas. Led his Team to State Championship and named Tournament MVP. Josh Carter rated No. 17 in the State of Texas named All DFW Metroplex. The Lithihian Center Kaval---- who started and excelled on several championship international Teams including the Global Games and the under 21 World Cup. Came to A&M after a year of Community College where he led the nation in rebounding with 10 per game and added 18 points per game in his FRESHMAN year. . Pompey rated the No. 64 Player in the Country by Prep Star-was a non-qualifier and came to A&M after a year of Prep School. Smith the JC National Player of the Year and a two time Junior College All-American. White was unrated but was All-DFW Metroplex at the overlooked Dallas Molina where he scored 28 points as a Junior and 24 as a Senior. Texas A&M will only get better as they have about 4 out of the Top 12 players in Texas in this year's senior class but when they really are an elite team it will have a lot more to do with quality recruiting and liberal admission policies than it will have to do with being a "better coach" than Tubbs. Same thing happened at UTEP where basically fielded an All-American JUCO/Division 1A Transfer/non-qualifier program. Once again this is not the Model under which Tubbs is expected to compete. BTW to the poster above who wasn't sure of their facilities-they just built the State of the Art Reed Center so Check Facilities too."

[Hoop Fan]

I would think that it would have less to do with any bias toward Tubbs, than what appears to be the complete unwillingness by some on this board to accept any criticism of Tubbs.

there is an obvious difference between constructive criticism or even balanced complaining and completely giving up on a guy after two years. The comments I am responding to are the ones that are conclusive and closed minded about the subject.

I dont think we had a good year at all, I dont think Tubbs is gods gift to coaching. But I also think we treat coaches unfairly around here and are in the process of possibly being proven wrong about Bennett. He went from being called an absolute horrible coach by the mob on here, to now complete silence and the benefit of the doubt he should have been given all along. Give Tubbs a fair chance and basic support, that is all i am saying. He will either prove it or he won't within the next 2 or 3 years. Yes, we owe him that much.

[friarwolf]

Kind of like you ingnored my post concerning Coach K and the recruiting class he brought in after his first year...................

Told you, Mickey.

Someday Hoop, you and I will chat and I'll explain why I am not enamored with our coach.

[Pony_Fan]

on second thought, maybe two years is too long to wait.

2 years is all Billy Gillispie needed.

Gillespie couldn't come here and turns things around in 2 years. It's SMU dude. We're the problem.

[Mickey]

Get ready to duck, Mickey. All the koolaide drinkers are getting ready to throw down on you.

so you dismiss or ignore the Coach K example from Eaststang, but you think this Billy Gillespie example is pretty good huh? Its one thing to have an opinion, its another to have a selective bias. What did Tubbs ever do to you to have so much venom and conviction about something so grey?

What Coach K example from Eastang? Billy Gillispie is a damn good example. Scott Drew has also recruited well at Baylor and they will begin to compete in the Big 12 soon.

As Stallion has said, if the admisistration wants to compete, we can. But we have got to play on a level playing field to even compete in CUSA. If the adminisitration would give the coaches the tools to compete, we can. But I manitain that Tubbs cannot compete under the present circumstances.

I haven't formed a view on Tubbs yet. I know that he hasn't made any progress on the court and in recruiting. I am not ready to blame Dement for all of that. I don't know if he can coach or not, and I consider recruiting as part of coaching. So far, Tubbs hasn't shown me much, but that isn't necessarily his fault. The DISD coaches have also been a big help haven't they?