Rod Flemings

[50's PONY]

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(3/13/06 10:43 pm)
Reply Rod Flemings Transferring
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Former Desoto star will search for greener pastures. Too bad he tip his hand about SMU and UNT. Word now is that he can't transfer to anywhere in the Big, nor can he go to UNT or SMU. I hope it all works out in the end because he's a hell of a ball player

TexasRoundball
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(3/13/06 10:48 pm)
Reply Re: Rod Flemings Transferring
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We believe the release will say he can transfer anywhere except to a Big 12 school. That is usually the case. In that case, he can choose UNT or SMU. We would be very surprised if he could not attend either of these 2.

Supa2G
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(3/13/06 11:04 pm)
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I thought this case was unusual myself. However, the reasoning behind UNT and SMU not being an option was because there was word that they had already been courting Flem before he received his release. Interesting situation nonetheless, I hope the kid comes out on top


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[abezontar]

For the ignorant masses....huh?

[Stallion]

4 star 2005 BB signee with OSU out of DeSoto High School. No. 26 rated player in the country. He was listed as 6-5, 190 by Rivals-but listed as 6-7 on OSU roster.

[abezontar]

so is he leaving OSU now, is there a possibility that he will come to SMU?

[Stallion]

its confirmed by numerous sources that he has left OSU. The part about SMU is speculation as far as I know. But let me just add that if he wants to go to SMU-without discussing whether he could be admitted at SMU-all he would have to do is tallk to his DeSoto Coach and complain that OSU will not give him his release to go to the school of his choice. OSU is not going to jeopardize it relationships in the South Dallas area over this. I personally am so sick of this little dagger held over the heads of kids who want to go elsewhere when OSU and others run players off all the time. I understand why they shouldn't be allowed to transfer intr-conference-the rest is a bunch of BS and these coaches need to be told in no unclear terms that such crap will jeopardize future recruiting at my school.

[Hoop Fan]

does he really need a release to transfer to the school of his choice???? Usually conferences have an internal rule that discourages transfers between members by saying a scholarship cannot be given by the new school. But how can OSU prevent Flemings from enrolling at SMU or UNT and sitting out a year? He has to sit out a year under transfer rules no matter what.

Now maybe OSU could file some sort of ncaa grievance for player tampering. Never heard it done before, but if they can, I guess we could file one against UT for courting Hopkins about a transfer according to Due.

[Stallion]

unless he goes to JC or CC first he needs a release. Of course, Desoto is where Willingham starred so its very possible Flemings might have some interest in SMU. Now on to the SMU's Transfer Policy....and what has been done or not done to change it...

[Hoop Fan]

so he could do what Willingham did and sit out his year at Mountain View CC and then come to SMU or wherever the next year no questions asked? I guess all you lose is a year of practice with team, and in smu's case difficulty transferring credits. By the way, I think the year Dez sat out at Mountain View did set him back competitively. Hope he can come back stronger next year.

[abezontar]

He isn't listed on OSU's roster.

I wish they would get rid the sit out one year to transfer rule, I personally think it places an unfair advantage on the student.

oh, by the way Stallion, what can I as an individual fan do to implement the solutions you have outlined in order to fix our model?

[Hoop Fan]

i dont think you want guys being able to transfer around at will, but i do think a simple exception should be implemented to allow kids to transfer with no penalty when a head coaching change occurs.

[mrydel]

I will use this opportunity to continue my rules change quest in allowing student athletes at BCS schools to transfer to Div 1A non BCS schools without haivng to sit out. Yes yes yes I realize the powers will not let it happen but it makes no sense to me that an athlete can transfer Div 1A to 1AA without sitting out, giving the lower division schools a great opportunity over the mid majors in getting transfer athletes who are good but realize due to an over abundance of good athletes their playing time is limited. It seems only fair that if they could transfer to St. Mary's School for Wayward Souls that they should be able to go mid major. I truly think this would be a better concession to the mid majors than does a slightly better opportunity to become qualified for a BCS bowl which can be manipulated by voting. I think the rule should remain the same as it is now between BCS schools and between mid majors, and only apply in a transfer from BCS to mid major. If I had a listening audience that could make a difference I would take this fight to the end.

I do realize with respect to Hoop Fan's statement, that the situation is not as drastic from a basketball sense, but football could have a dramatic impact.

[abezontar]

I would be afraid though that doing so would strengthen the argument that mid-majors don't deserve to be considered on the level of BCS teams. Not saying your proposal doesn't have merit though.

[mrydel]

I would be afraid though that doing so would strengthen the argument that mid-majors don't deserve to be considered on the level of BCS teams. Not saying your proposal doesn't have merit though.

The way it stands now they do not get any respect or consideration. Did you hear Jim Nance screaming about teams that were chosen for the NCAA BB Tourney? He said outright that the power conferences should be given special consideration because they are better and play harder in conference schedules. Well duh. Put SMU in the Big 12 or SEC and we will have a harder conference schedule also.

[abezontar]

I didn't hear it, but those kind of comments are why I think this type of transfer policy might strengthen their hand. Again, I'm not saying you are wrong, just that I think there might be a risk of it backfiring, just like their might be a risk of it backfiriing if you let kids transfer without sitting out a year.

[osu9400]

lots of speculation surrounding this deal... The Suttons wanted Rod to redshirt this year but his momma didn't agree. Obviously we didn't have a typical year and rarely had a comfortable enough lead to secure quality PT for him. Momma wasn't happy and she was VERY vocal in Dallas last week telling people that he had standing offers from SMU and UNT to transfer. Can someone speak to the legality of a school making offers to an athlete at another school? If it is illegal, then I doubt SMU would do this.

Rumors also started flowing a few weeks ago that his grades we not where they should be and he was missing too many classes. Some say his grades were bad enough to not meet eligibility requirements. Keep in mind that OSU has a very strong academic support staff for their athletes. After the Bob Simmons fiasco 10 years ago, it is very hard for an OSU athlete to get lost in the system. I don't think he was entirely stupid, but apparently he lost all desire to put the work into his academics.

He was not all-star material, but I really thought he could have been an important cog on Sutton-esque type team. I am disappointed to see him go. Someone will get a solid player.