Winthrop

by **Poonab** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:02 am

The Winthrop coach is preparing for the tournament (his 6th in 8 years) and I wonder how the SMU AD is feeling about getting played by the Dallas HS coaches, who from what I was told forced him to hire Tubbs and not even interview Coach Marshall. How many Dallas prospects has Tubbs brought to SMU that wouldn't have come otherwise?

by **Stallion** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:04 am

"A Star Is Born" in Post No. 1

by **ClassOf81** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:11 am

A star is born because he reiterated a topic that has been re-hashed over and over on this site? A good point, prehaps, but not ground-breaking stuff.

by **Hoop Fan** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:16 am

maybe i'm wrong, but methinks Stallion was being totally sarcastic.

by **Poonab** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:25 am

I didn't realize that ya'll were aware of Winthrop and what we have continued to enjoy due to your AD's fear of the DISD coaching caucus. Enjoy Tubbs and I'm gonna go make some chili to enjoy while watching a great coach, who your AD stiffed, beat Tenn.
Take care and what ever happened to Sammy Hervey?

by **Hoop Fan** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:35 am

Poonab wrote:I didn't realize that ya'll were aware of Winthrop and what we have continued to enjoy due to your AD's fear of the DISD coaching caucus. Enjoy Tubbs and I'm gonna go make some chili to enjoy while watching a great coach, who your AD stiffed, beat Tenn.
Take care and what ever happened to Sammy Hervey?

you presume to know alot, but maybe you should realize that no high school coach can deliver a player anywhere. I'm pretty sure our AD and anyone with any lick of common sense knew that when we hired Tubbs. Tubbs gives SMU a good chance to get some good local players. A much better chance than we had with Dement or most other guys we could hire, including probably Mr. Marshall. Nothing more, nothing less. I guess we will just have to go on living with Winthrop's success. Not sure how we'll manage.

by **abezontar** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:52 am

Who/what is Winthrop?

by **EastStang** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:56 am

I guess winning the Winkie Tinkie Conference really is an accomplishment. And congratulations on moving up to a 15 seed from a 16 seed. You might actually beat Tennessee this year since they've lost 4 out of their last six games. I am not sure Marshall would have been chosen over Wojick, Roberts, and the current coach at Miami who were finalists with Tubbs. So, I guess we'll just have to do without.

by **Pony_Fan** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:26 pm

EastStang wrote:I guess winning the Winkie Tinkie Conference really is an accomplishment. And congratulations on moving up to a 15 seed from a 16 seed. You might actually beat Tennessee this year since they've lost 4 out of their last six games. I am not sure Marshall would have been chosen over Wojick, Roberts, and the current coach at Miami who were finalists with Tubbs. So, I guess we'll just have to do without.

I'd take at least getting in the tournament over our 13 year absence anyday.

by **Poonab** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:25 pm

I've heard of "hinky-dink" conferences but never the "winkie-tinkie", I'm no Freudian but methinks that Eastang has some "issues". Anyway, good luck to you guys, I used to enjoy going to SMU games and always enjoyed Moody Coliseum. I'd still like to know about Sammy Hervey, oh well.

by **Pony_Fan** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:27 pm

Poonab wrote: I'd still like to know about Sammy Hervey, oh well.

Ex-SMU player had star quality but never made it farther

08:23 PM CST on Saturday, January 7, 2006

Over the years when he'd see him at games, J.D. Mayo occasionally introduced his Skyline basketball team to the stepfather of one of his players from the late '80s.

And here's what he'd tell them about Sammy Hervey: "This is one of the greatest Dallas ISD players who ever played."

Long before Larry Johnson or Chris Bosh, Hervey was a schoolboy legend at Booker T. Washington and Crozier Tech in the late '60s and early '70s, a 6-7, 220-pounder who could handle the ball and shoot it and wasn't shy about either.

"His points came any way he wanted 'em," Ira Terrell said.

Averaged 41 points his junior year in high school and 37 as a senior. Terrell, a star in his own right, says Hervey could have averaged 50 if they'd allowed dunks and 3-pointers.

Slim, they called him. "And everybody wanted to be like Slim," Terrell said.

How much did Terrell want it? One reason he went to SMU out of Roosevelt was to team with Hervey, whose numbers had been so outlandish that the ABA drafted him out of Kilgore College.

He might go off for 63 at Kilgore. At SMU he teamed with Terrell to form one of the most potent combinations in school history.

Said Terrell: "I knew we could do something."

In the '72-73 season, they averaged 41 points a game between them and made first-team All-SWC. Hervey also averaged nine rebounds, tied for sixth in SMU history.

But Hervey's star faded quickly. Out of shape, grades poor, he played only part of his senior season, though enough that the Atlanta Hawks drafted him in the sixth round.

He came home after three days. Loved to fish and cook. Cooked up a storm at Sammy's Barbeque downtown.

The closest he'd come to basketball was watching his stepson, Willie Arnold, at Skyline.

And his past? "He talked about it all the time," Arnold said. "Booker T., Kilgore, SMU. He had some regrets about it, but not a lot. Money wasn't a big deal to him.

"He had a happy life. Always kept a smile on his face. You couldn't tell he was supposed to be an NBA star."

Later in life he developed hypertension and high blood pressure. On his last check-up, the doctor told him he'd have to go to the hospital or he'd suffer a heart attack or stroke.

His response: "I gotta get out of here."

He died Nov. 19, two days after his 54th birthday. No one was really surprised. Arnold said he never got over the death of his wife (two years ago).

Not that you could tell. Mayo, who saw Hervey play in high school and college, said he was as smooth off the floor as he was on it.

In fact, the only time he'd see Hervey ruffled was when the Skyline coach introduced him to the latest round of Dallas basketball prodigies.

"He'd get a little embarrassed," Mayo said. "He was just a real humble, happy guy."

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by **Poonab** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:35 pm

Thank you for posting that article, he was something special, sad how it ended. Take care

by **EastStang** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:16 pm

I could have posted Brokeback Conference, but you got the idea.

by **Poonab** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:52 pm

Nice on going for the homophobic, Republican, jesus hates anyone other than conservative white people, image. I guess some things don't change.

by **Hoop Fan** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:02 pm

Poonab wrote:Nice on going for the homophobic, Republican, jesus hates anyone other than conservative white people, image. I guess some things don't change.

easy dude, I dont think that is Eaststangs style. And arent you being hypocritical and painting with a real broad brush with this 'some things dont change' comment?

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