SMU: Release the major findings NOW!

[Hoop Fan]

if you cant release the major violations alluded to in the press release for legal reasons, SAY SO. That chicken s-hit press release from yesterday is not gonna cut it. If there are major violations, report them to the NCAA immediately and release the information to your consitituents. There is no other proper course of action.

[jtstang]

Second the motion. Save a little face if it's not already too late.

[mrydel]

I have a 3rd

[Danny Noonan]

I would love to know what they are as well. I don't think they're going report anything until the investigation is complete, though.

[jtstang]

I would love to know what they are as well. I don't think they're going report anything until the investigation is complete, though.

But they'll go ahead and fire somebody before the investigation is complete. That makes sense.

[EastStang]

And fire them a week before basketball signing day.

[McClown27]

I would love to know what they are as well. I don't think they're going report anything until the investigation is complete, though.

But they'll go ahead and fire somebody before the investigation is complete. That makes sense.

Losing coaches with possible violations are not on real firm ground. If you think Copeland wanted to do this after resigning and having major surgery, y'all are crazy.

[DickerJames]

I don't think they're going report anything until the investigation is complete, though.

That brings up the most confusing part of this saga. The timing of this move screwed next year for sure, so why does the lame duck AD fire the coach before the investigation is over? The only reason that makes sence to me is Gramps must be calling the shots.

[mrydel]

Question for all of your attorneys. SMU...private school. Is it ever required that the informatin be made available if and when it is? Does the FOIA come into play with a private institution? Can they just stonewall and say there is more to it than they wish to disclose, or will there be a point in time that it musxt be revealed?

I can see where it could be possible that " we will pay out your contract if you agree to be silent and we agree not to disclose what you did in order not to damage your reputation anymore.."

I am just wondering because I am willing to wait if it will be disclosed at the earliest possible time, but I will be very unhappy if there is just inuendo and speculation and no hard and fast reason for the dismissal.

[Hoop Fan]

I don't think they're going report anything until the investigation is complete, though.

That brings up the most confusing part of this saga. The timing of this move screwed next year for sure, so why does the lame duck AD fire the coach before the investigation is over? The only reason that makes sence to me is Gramps must be calling the shots.

maybe Gramps doesn't want any competition at shooting guard for his beloved. This is a good way to ensure it. Good god, what a mess. Complete idiocy.

[DickerJames]

Aren't we being investigated by the NCAA? If so, how can we withold evidence from them. Supposedly the reason the investigation was started was because of Gramp allegations and the requirement to report said allegations.

[Dopey Doowrong]

Hey jtstang and HF, or should I say...HEY [deleted]...

Put down the Kool-Aid and SIMMA DOWN NAH!

Do you actually think a university with an endowment of over $1B that has demonstrated a solid commitment to diversity in all of its programs would just haphazardly fire a coach like Tubbs for SOAP and BURGERS? Do you think we just stepped into this unpleasant debacle WILLINGLY? WELL DO YOU??? Are you STUPID OR SOMETHING? Did you just happen to gloss over the fact that the media was informed OF ADDITIONAL, MORE SERIOUS, PREVIOUSLY UNREPORTED NCAA VIOLATIONS??? Get your [deleted]!

Do you actually think SMU should (or could) disclose to you little terdlings the potentially crippling revelations of active and ongoing NCAA investigations into Tubbs' program? WELL DO YOU?? WE ARE TRYING TO SAVE A PROGRAM, NOT KILL IT AS YOU APPARENTLY DESIRE. YOU are no friend to SMU!!!!!

Tubbs is a mediocre coach who was in way over his head both ON and OFF the court. He DIDN'T GET IT! Neither do you, [deleted].

Believe it or not, we still have a job to do...SMU cannot afford to tolerate acts and omissions by coaches that could bring down the house for good. Now go chase an ambulance or something!

[EastStang]

At the end of the day, the NCAA will issue a report which they make public after the school has been given the opportunity to agree or disagree with it.

[Danny Noonan]

I would love to know what they are as well. I don't think they're going report anything until the investigation is complete, though.

But they'll go ahead and fire somebody before the investigation is complete. That makes sense.

Do you not think its possible that they know enough to fire him, but not enough to release it publicly to the media? I'm being serious here. I have no major connections to the school, no big time sources. But I've followed college sports long enough to know that these things don't come out over night.

Example (not at all saying this is what happened)- The investigation makes it known to the school that there is, in fact, some sort of payment of players or recruits and Tubbs knew about it. That right there is enough to fire him on the spot. But it may take them weeks to find out how deep it goes, and connect all the dots. Until that time, they're not going to admit these violations publicly or to the NCAA. I realize we're in the middle of a PR nightmare right now, but this would make it even worse.

When you release the violations to the public, you want them to be correct.

[Stallion]

No SMU is not covered by Freedom Of Information acts or state public information statutes. In the 1980s EVEN AFTER the recruiting scandals SMU refused to fully cooperate with the NCAA and release certain damaging information developed in their own investigation reportedly to cover-up the violations from certain prominent boosters or members of the Board of Govenors. After all there was the election of Bill Clements to think about. When I think about how that sorry-assed Clements threw SMU under the Bus to get re-elected it makes me want to puke. BTW he was never disassociated from the university nor were several other prominent members of the Board of Govenors although they were the most to blame for the Death Penalty. But SMU NEVER fully cooperated with the NCAA and never fully disclosed the events surrounding the investigation-although of course Clements did make his famous there was a Payroll to meet comment on Inauguration Day.