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Tubbs is on the cover of the college basketball espn home page, the story is about coaches leaving or being fired after possible coaching violations.

"Tubbs surprisingly was sacked last week by SMU over rules allegations after an internal investigation. The school found alleged violations and turned them in two months ago. Extra meal benefits are at the crux of these violations that, at a school sensitive to violations due to being shut down for football in 1987, were apparently enough to end his two-year reign."

Great now the national media has taken notice of Burgergate. Could SMU look any more foolish? If there is more to this, for godsake spill it so we can stop looking like fools to everybody!

Good article. The end seems to fuel suspiscion that Tubbs just wasn't hacking it as a coach. It seems that between his performance on the court and having minor violations to look at also that was enough to can him.

Still not sure if there are more violations there or they simply wanted a reason to oust him bc of how poor the team has been in his tenure. Maybe they wanted to cut loose before any potential violations from his OU stint were uncovered. Either way I am happy to know that we will be getting a coach that gives SMU a better chance to succeed. I wish Jimmy the best of luck and hope he lands on his feet somewhere as an assistant, a role in which he has proven to be a great asset in.

I do not think it looks foolish to strictly follow the rules JT. I would think firing a coach for poor performance would scare potential future coaches away more than for NCAA infractions (albeit minor ones). Just my thoughts on the matter.

Extra meal benefits, maybe that's why Rick Majerus had to retire at Utah? You know the NCAA accused the Utes coach of taking his players out to ..... breakfast! I guess their AD said, we don't care that you coached us to the National Title game, that trip to IHOP means you have to retire. Then again, the players probably didn't get to eat much off their plates. Coach M - "Hey that looks good, let me have a taste."

Actually with Majerus the problem was he lived in a hotel in Utah and he took a couple kids to the restaurant in the lobby, oddly if he had the food delivered to his room it would have been legal.

At the end of Katz' article it says that Sampson thinks that Tubbs was fired not because of the violations, but because SMU wanted an excuse to let him go early. If Sampson is saying it, other coaches are thinking it. Here comes that 95 year old high school coach again.

White Helmet wrote:oddly if he had the food delivered to his room it would have been legal.

I dont' want to extend this tangent too far, but can somebody please explain why that is?

That was what I gathered from the end of the article too East. The thing is, a coach who is confident he can come in and win will not be scared off much by this. I think we will get a much better coach than a lot of people are expecting.

EastStang wrote:At the end of Katz' article it says that Sampson thinks that Tubbs was fired not because of the violations, but because SMU wanted an excuse to let him go early. If Sampson is saying it, other coaches are thinking it. Here comes that 95 year old high school coach again.

If you read the article carefully, it says the impermissible phone calls were going on while Tubbs was at OU, too.

KnuckleStang wrote:

White Helmet wrote:oddly if he had the food delivered to his room it would have been legal.

I dont' want to extend this tangent too far, but can somebody please explain why that is?

Because the hotel room was his "residence." Of course, if a fat, bald man in a sweater asked me to go to a hotel room for room service, I would be creeped out.

Remember though, he will have lost Hopkins and has the same cast returning that went 4-10 in conference. He will have no quality recruits for his first season unless he gets lucky with a late qualifier. That gives him only 1 year to succeed. Coaches aren't that confident. If we get someone like you think we'll get, we'll be very very lucky.

MustangIcon (very c0cky name by the way), you seem very determined to point out that coach Tubbs was/is a bad coach. Can you please tell us what you would have done differently, basketball strategy wise, with the talent he had?

In his first full season of recruiting he brought in two very promising players and from what I could tell, he got about as much out of this current team as one could expect. Maybe I dont know as much about basketball as you, so please tell me where he went wrong....basketball wise.

I just don't think Orsini is gonna come in here and lay an egg. He knows he has to get this right. It will be the first of many (hopefully) hires. He'll get us a good one. I think we've been lulled by a contagious complacency in Mustang athletics. A new day is dawning... get ready.

MustangIcon wrote:I do not think it looks foolish to strictly follow the rules JT. I would think firing a coach for poor performance would scare potential future coaches away more than for NCAA infractions (albeit minor ones). Just my thoughts on the matter.

BS, he was set up on the reported "infractions" and they amount to burgers and Cheer. I'd have so much more respect for SMU if they'd just fired him because he's a bad coach, and said so. This hiding the ball stuff is BS.