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Posted: **Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:04 pm**

what a joke. Get a name...... so what!!! 1-10 football for 2mil. Now 3 years and he can't beat a lowly club in FTW, with a new coach and no players.

Dohdumb................glad my son is graduated

Posted: **Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:48 pm**

This thread is either going to get ignored or blasted, but I think it is time to question what Orisini has really done. There's no doubt he can raise money. And the June Jones hire still has promise...

But as for the Coach Doh hire...yes, he is a "big name," but isn't there a reason he was readily available? The guy can't coach... I view this more as a "safe hire" instead of finding the next great coach. He's a great salesman of the program and it looks like he can do a little recruiting, but ultimately is he really going to turn this program around?

The SMU model should resemble that of Gonzaga or any other mid-major program, where you rely on solid coaching and fundamentals to outplay bigger opponents. At this point we're not going to out recruit any of the big programs around here, so we have to find other ways to attract local talent and then get them to play for the coach. I'm really worried this isn't anywhere close to happening right now...

Posted: **Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:08 am**

FriscoPMG wrote:This thread is either going to get ignored or blasted, but I think it is time to question what Orisini has really done. There's no doubt he can raise money. And the June Jones hire still has promise...

But as for the Coach Doh hire...yes, he is a "big name," but isn't there a reason he was readily available? The guy can't coach... I view this more as a "safe hire" instead of finding the next great coach. He's a great salesman of the program and it looks like he can do a little recruiting, but ultimately is he really going to turn this program around?

The SMU model should resemble that of Gonzaga or any other mid-major program, where you rely on solid coaching and fundamentals to outplay bigger opponents. At this point we're not going to out recruit any of the big programs around here, so we have to find other ways to attract local talent and then get them to play for the coach. I'm really worried this isn't anywhere close to happening right now...

I hate to admit this because I really do like Robo but I have to agree with the statements about his coaching. I have cut him some slack because of the young players & it takes time to turn around a program, but I don't see much development in the returning players & I find myself constantly questioning his coaching decisions every game.
Its still early in the season & maybe I'm still just pissed off about how terrible we played against TCU last night but something ain't right.

Posted: **Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:10 pm**

whatever orsini does, don't extend DOH's contract like your predecessor did to PB after a meager win. let the contract expire. SMU canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t continue to buy out coaches contracts due to the administrationÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s poor hiring of coaches. Does DOH have 2 more years after this year? Orsini's hirings makes a case for Notre Damn not hiring Orsini as AD.

Posted: **Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:58 pm**

the only good thing is Doh has been in the mix w/ players that we have never been able to.

Posted: **Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:25 pm**

bubba pony wrote:whatever orsini does, don't extend DOH's contract like your predecessor did to PB after a meager win. let the contract expire. SMU canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t continue to buy out coaches contracts due to the administrationÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s poor hiring of coaches. Does DOH have 2 more years after this year? Orsini's hirings makes a case for Notre Damn not hiring Orsini as AD.

You can't let a coach's contract expire. If the team starts doing well, that coach will leave, but even if the coach wants to stay put, the lame-duck status kills recruiting.

A contract can be written, though, so that the extension includes a much more palatable buy-out.

Posted: **Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:52 am**

FriscoPMG wrote:This thread is either going to get ignored or blasted, but I think it is time to question what Orisini has really done.

Well we certainly have digressed in FB over the past 2 years and now BB for what now appears to be 3 years.

Zero doubt in my mind that if you use these 2 sports as your criteria, SMU is the absolute WORST D1-A program today.

More troubling to me is that outside of just a handful of players such as McCoy; neither our FB nor BB teams have any athletes who can take us to the next level. I meanÃ¢â‚¬Â¦.does anybody really think Ryan Harp or Mike Walker will ever develop into the type of player that gets us to the post-season. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s wishful thinking and not reality, much like those who think our LBs can develop into anything other than mediocre.

Long and short of it is we have to go through more Ã¢â‚¬ËœrebuildingÃ¢â‚¬â„¢, a perpetual state at SMU we are all too familiar with.

Add to this that the one sport SMU excels on at a national level, menÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s soccer, has now also taken a big step backwards due to what appears to be a bad hire and yesÃ¢â‚¬Â¦you have to start questioning our ADÃ¢â‚¬Â¦at least I do.

thanks Hilltopper

Posted: **Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:21 am**

Or, for SMU grads, "... the absolute WORST." (Sorry - I kid. You just had a North Texas State Vocational School moment.) :lol:

With that said, however, we have no regressed. In football, we're all tired of hearing about the rebuilding project that seems to take place every few years, but the fact is it is in place again, and this time seems to have a sense of direction -- restocking the roster, starting with what is it - 8 or 9 incoming linemen, some of whom reportedly are very impressive? A quarterback who got kicked in the deep end as a freshman, and showed some signs this year of swimming ability (at least in the games I saw)? A pair of receivers who seem to be able to live up to Coach Jones' high praise? Long way to go, but under this staff, there appears to be direction and genuine reason for hope. I liked Coach Bennett, but I couldn't say that over the last couple of seasons.

As for basketball, it's much like football - a lot of new faces, especially young faces, mean mistakes and crappy nights at times, but even in the trainwreck in Fort Worth (or at least on my TV), it appears that we're much more athletic than last year, especially in the backcourt (obviously). If Fall hadn't gotten into foul trouble in the first half, the margin would have been a lot closer - Froggy High was having fits when he was in there, and then cruised when he was on the bench.

Just like football, there's plenty of frustration ... but also a little hope.

Posted: **Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:35 am**

Hilltopper wrote:In football, we're all tired of hearing about the rebuilding project that seems to take place every few years, but the fact is it is in place again, and this time seems to have a sense of direction -- restocking the roster, starting with what is it - 8 or 9 incoming linemen, some of whom reportedly are very impressive? A quarterback who got kicked in the deep end as a freshman, and showed some signs this year of swimming ability (at least in the games I saw)? Long way to go, but under this staff, there appears to be direction and genuine reason for hope.

Copy Bennett

Paste Jones

Posted: **Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:38 am**

I disagree. Jones has a track record that suggests he does know what he's doing. PB, for all his defensive guru reputation, had no track record as a head coach.
Coach Jones will get it done!

Posted: **Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:40 am**

Actually I have more faith with Jones than Bennett...but still think Jones' recruiting classes so far have been 'average'...I was hoping for a lot more.

Posted: **Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:19 am**

Hilltopper wrote:Or, for SMU grads, "... the absolute WORST." (Sorry - I kid. You just had a North Texas State Vocational School moment.)

With that said, however, we have no regressed. In football,

Posted: **Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:09 am**

Orsini did not want the ND job, now...all he would be charged with doing is firing Weis (GSP's Uncle), finding a new fball coach, navigating the choppy waters of conferecne and tv contracts...pretty much losing props on all fronts...would not be surprised if he is not the "next" ND AD....guy is sharp, smart...I am glad we have him for now...we need him. Long Live Doc Hayes.

Posted: **Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:23 pm**

One Trick Pony wrote:
Hilltopper wrote:Or, for SMU grads, "... the absolute WORST." (Sorry - I kid. You just had a North Texas State Vocational School moment.)

With that said, however, we have no regressed. In football,

TouchÃƒÂ©!

Steve-O absolutely did want the ND job.

As for Coach Jones' recruiting class, he had three weeks to put together this year's class, and there are a bunch of guys who seem to have considerable promise.

Then again, it's a couple of years too early to evaluate either class, anyway

Posted: **Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:12 pm**

Steve-O absolutely did want the ND job.

I remember it as he was never asked and then said he wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t interested in an attempt to hide the Norte Dame snub.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 787be.html

football, men's basketball, men and women soccer coaches have been picked by Orsini and all have done worst then their predecessor. did I get my facts right?
I hope Steve turns it around but as of now, not impressed with what he has accomplished. The hype of being in the top 25 in all sports is no where near fruition. In fact it's going in the opposite direction.

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