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Video of last 1:26 of UAB-SMU game

Postby BlazerGrad88 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:48 pm

Hey guys. I'm a UAB fan/alum and came across your forum. Your guys played an awesome game Saturday. McCoy was unstoppable. I dread having to play against him three more years.

Anyway, I had my little video camera with me and filmed the last 1:26 of the game. Just in case you're interested, I thought I'd post the links to view them since the game wasn't televised as far as I know.

This is one continuous video of the final 1:26, including timeouts, broken into three clips.

Clip 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBo_hZXdRio

Clip 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNda7Oh_E9A

Clip 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31m3ZEZJVBg


Good luck the rest of the way.
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Postby papawasamustang » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:28 pm

Thanks for the video clip.

I shouldn't have watched the 3rd clip.

That was the most unorganized final couple of seconds I have ever seen in my life & believe me, I have seen alot of basketball @ all levels.

If that doesn't open some eyes I don't know what else it takes.

Total cluster & I'm amazed @ what I just saw.
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Postby George S. Patton » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:57 pm

In clip 2, looked like McCoy was too close and didn't have enough spacing to cut off the drive. Regardless, could he get closer enough for the running one-hander. That goes back to our ridiculous defense all season.

In clip 3, all I can say is OMG! We throw away the inbound when Fall breaks free and we don't even see him? Maybe his back wasn't turned to see the pass.

Game management, my friends! Game management!

At least, in the related videos, you can check out the Bobby Chase catch.
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Postby bagice » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:59 pm

What did you want them to do? Threw the ball into Bamba because he was wide open, but he didn't catch it because he thought the ball was to someone else, they stole it, that was game over, we had no timeouts and they had all them fouls to give.

Doherty was trying to get coaching in with no timeouts and was trying to stall, nothing else to say, you can criticize Doherty for a lot of things, but this is a stretch.

You want to complain about something, complain about that foul called on McCoy...that should have been let go with under 10 seconds, was a phantom foul and a LATE whistle, like the ref knew he needed to call something since the shot didn't go.

Was a good game against a tough team.

Thanks for the clips.
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Postby George S. Patton » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:02 am

bagice wrote:What did you want them to do?


I want them to win the damn game is what I want them to do. The whistle on the foul at the end was late but it's in their building. I would have been surprised if they didn't get it.
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Postby CalallenStang » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:04 am

At least UAB has a shot to get into the NCAA tournament. What's being lost in all of this is that our team performed exceptionally well for most of the game against a vastly superior team.

We have hope for the future...the question now is whether or not Doh is the man to get us to the next step.
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Postby bagice » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:05 am

Was a shame we couldn't win it, but I don't see anything glaring in the coaching like some are making it out to be. When we got the ball stolen and they made both free throws, we were in bad trouble considering the refs only found the need to call 3 fouls on them for the half, they would have hacked us like crazy.

You can see that when Williams gets the ball knocked out of bounds when he gets the pass, they were blatently trying to hack him and the refs only called it out of bounds.
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Postby papawasamustang » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:19 am

bagice wrote:What did you want them to do? Threw the ball into Bamba because he was wide open, but he didn't catch it because he thought the ball was to someone else, they stole it, that was game over, we had no timeouts and they had all them fouls to give.

Doherty was trying to get coaching in with no timeouts and was trying to stall, nothing else to say, you can criticize Doherty for a lot of things, but this is a stretch.

You want to complain about something, complain about that foul called on McCoy...that should have been let go with under 10 seconds, was a phantom foul and a LATE whistle, like the ref knew he needed to call something since the shot didn't go.

Was a good game against a tough team.

Thanks for the clips.


Matt really puts himself in position to be 2nd guessed very easily.

First, why do you have a 7'1 turnover machine in that position.
If he is in the game, which he shouldn't have been, you put him @ half court & have him break toward the free throw line as a LAST option.
Not the 1st option or even the second.

Second, why was Mike Walker @ 5'11, throwing the ball in from the sidelines when we still had a chance. We were down three & he throws it out of bounds under the basketball looking for Papa down low.
Again, we are down 3. Not 1 or 2. You have to have a play designed for a 3 pt shot & you gotta have someone with some height throwing it in from that point on the court. That's a terrible decision & you saw the results.

What you saw was poor coaching & poor execution of whatever the play was supposed to be. That falls on the HC.
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Postby BlazerGrad88 » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:33 am

"I want them to win the damn game is what I want them to do. The whistle on the foul at the end was late but it's in their building. I would have been surprised if they didn't get it."

I agree that it's hard to see a foul when our (UAB) guy drives to the basket, but the whistle wasn't actually late like it sounds because the audio is about a second behind the video. You can see the ref raise his arm and then you hear the whistle a second later. The delay is most noticeable when UAB hit the free throws. Notice the delay between when the ball goes through the basket and then when you hear the crowd cheer.

Anyway, just thought I'd point out the delay between the video and audio.

Take care and good luck to the Ponies.
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Postby SMU 86 » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:41 am

Thanks for the video BlazerGrad88.
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Postby Pony_Fan » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:16 pm

I really wish I hadn't watched that.

wow, what a cluster F!!
he had 6 guys in at one point and couldnt get the right ones subbed in.
Nobody knew who was going to inbounds the ball.

That was AWFUL
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Postby WE ARE BACK » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:18 pm

papawasamustang wrote:
bagice wrote:What did you want them to do? Threw the ball into Bamba because he was wide open, but he didn't catch it because he thought the ball was to someone else, they stole it, that was game over, we had no timeouts and they had all them fouls to give.

Doherty was trying to get coaching in with no timeouts and was trying to stall, nothing else to say, you can criticize Doherty for a lot of things, but this is a stretch.

You want to complain about something, complain about that foul called on McCoy...that should have been let go with under 10 seconds, was a phantom foul and a LATE whistle, like the ref knew he needed to call something since the shot didn't go.

Was a good game against a tough team.

Thanks for the clips.


Matt really puts himself in position to be 2nd guessed very easily.

First, why do you have a 7'1 turnover machine in that position.
If he is in the game, which he shouldn't have been, you put him @ half court & have him break toward the free throw line as a LAST option.
Not the 1st option or even the second.

Second, why was Mike Walker @ 5'11, throwing the ball in from the sidelines when we still had a chance. We were down three & he throws it out of bounds under the basketball looking for Papa down low.
Again, we are down 3. Not 1 or 2. You have to have a play designed for a 3 pt shot & you gotta have someone with some height throwing it in from that point on the court. That's a terrible decision & you saw the results.

What you saw was poor coaching & poor execution of whatever the play was supposed to be. That falls on the HC.



Doherty is a good guy and its hard not to like him... However when it comes down coaching, he is just not very good. The spacing on the floor is terrible and it seems like our players don't understand the few plays that we do call. I always see McCoy dribbling and the other 4 players not moving or setting screens. Just allot of standing around.

Doherty is a class act that speaks well and does a good job of representing SMU. He also does a good job of generating $$$. Too bad we can't fire him but convince him to stay at SMU in some other capacity.
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Postby George S. Patton » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:26 pm

Bagice,
The bottom line is they did not put themselves in a position to try and tie the game or win it. I could live with having everything go about as well as you can and miss the shot. But we did none of that to give ourselves any chance.

But I've see too many times at the end of games where this team doesn't know how to finish, be it timeouts to set defense, making free throws and inbounding the ball properly. You're not going to win them all. But you shouldn't be losing them all either.
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Postby EastStang » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:39 pm

Mistakes happen to young players on throw ins. I don't think he missed Fall, I think he was trying to throw it further up court and it was intercepted. That was an execution error which happens. After that, it was a cluster bomb. But without timeouts, and a noisy gym, I am not surprised that the players were confused. And the in-bound from mid-court when you're down by three was pretty lame. You don't throw it under the basket, you set up for a trey.
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Postby George S. Patton » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:54 pm

EastStang wrote:Mistakes happen to young players on throw ins. I don't think he missed Fall, I think he was trying to throw it further up court and it was intercepted. That was an execution error which happens. After that, it was a cluster bomb. But without timeouts, and a noisy gym, I am not surprised that the players were confused. And the in-bound from mid-court when you're down by three was pretty lame. You don't throw it under the basket, you set up for a trey.


I didn't say this right. I don't think Fall was the first option. And I don't know where we were in the 5-second count. But the first option led to the errant pass.

Fall broke free after setting that token screen. Guess it was too late to find him.
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