PonyFans.comBoard IndexAround the HilltopFootballRecruitingBasketballOther Sports

Thoughts at the end of the season

Anything involving SMU basketball belongs here.

Moderators: PonyPride, SmooPower

Thoughts at the end of the season

Postby Pony81 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:26 pm

After watching 5-6 home games over the season I see:

1. A front court that is tall and long but largely unathletic. USM had much better athletes and almost negated our height advantage.
2. McCoy and Walker are capable guards but none is a show stopper.
3. MD has dramatically improved his bench coaching style. Last year and at the beginning of the season he was micro managing the kids all over the floor. He seemed to give them more rope.
4. We desperately need a 6-6 type slasher SG or SF that can penetrate. Our big men are largely set pieces who only take up space and get the occasional rebound.

We will have another poor year next year if we:
1. Don't recruit a SG / SF that can penetrate and generate space for the other big men.
2. Don't STOP the cut pass and lob pass inside to unathletic big men. How many TO's has that created this year. The Bigs aren't athletic enough to catch and shoot with accurace in one motion.
3. Don't get better in FT shooting.
4. Don't learn to block out on the offensive board. We get almost no offensive rebounds.

Get me a 6'6" athletic SG / SF who can penetrate and SMU will be a pretty decent CUSA team. That is the missing piece.
Pony 81
Pony81
Heisman
 
Posts: 1353
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:09 pm

Postby bagice » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:31 pm

Sounds like we need to get the reincarnation of the Q! He would fit that bill.
Womack + Wishbone = Heisman

Class of 89
User avatar
bagice
Heisman
 
Posts: 1695
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:10 pm
Location: Plano, Tx.

Postby LA_Mustang » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:36 am

Pony81 wrote:We will have another poor year next year if we:
1. Don't recruit a SG / SF that can penetrate and generate space for the other big men.

Well, as of now we have one scholarship to give and it is going to a project big man.

As I have said for the last 5 years - this team will not be good until it gets a 2/3 who can score the basketball.....a 20 pt a game type scorer.
SMU-12 NCAA appearances, 1 Final Four
2014-15 & 2016-17 AAC Men's Basketball Champs

Image
User avatar
LA_Mustang
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 15604
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2002 4:01 am
Location: El Porto, CA 90266

Postby Billy Joe » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:48 am

This team is a long ways from being competitive. No one can really say Doherty has made any improvement from when he took the job. If Orsini was serious about his "Top 25" statement then he has to let Doherty go and bring in a bigger name coach. This will not happen because the athletic department has no money to get a bigger name coach and asking the alumni for more funds in this economy will not get it done. I would trade Doherty for just about any other coach in C-USA right now. Any disagreements?
User avatar
Billy Joe
All-American
 
Posts: 946
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:34 am

Postby MustangIcon » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:26 am

Billy Joe wrote:This team is a long ways from being competitive. No one can really say Doherty has made any improvement from when he took the job. If Orsini was serious about his "Top 25" statement then he has to let Doherty go and bring in a bigger name coach. This will not happen because the athletic department has no money to get a bigger name coach and asking the alumni for more funds in this economy will not get it done. I would trade Doherty for just about any other coach in C-USA right now. Any disagreements?


I'd be suprised if you could even name 2/3rds of the coaches in C-USA. Of course I'll never know bc you could look them up and post them here, but I seriously doubt it.
MustangIcon
Hall of Famer
 
Posts: 2604
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:29 am

Postby MustangIcon » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:31 am

LA_Mustang wrote:
Pony81 wrote:We will have another poor year next year if we:
1. Don't recruit a SG / SF that can penetrate and generate space for the other big men.

Well, as of now we have one scholarship to give and it is going to a project big man.

As I have said for the last 5 years - this team will not be good until it gets a 2/3 who can score the basketball.....a 20 pt a game type scorer.


Cort Hoge was initially a walk-on. Unless once he got on campus Doh was so impressed with him that he earned a ship, Hoge is merely keeping it warm this season bc we had no one else to use it on. Bamba will be replaced by Julius, Cort's 'ship will be used by _____? If there is any other attrition we will have further scholarships.

You mean the team will be good if we had a 20ppg scorer? Hmm. Novel concept. :lol:
MustangIcon
Hall of Famer
 
Posts: 2604
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:29 am

Postby Pony_Fan » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:38 pm

MustangIcon wrote:
Billy Joe wrote:This team is a long ways from being competitive. No one can really say Doherty has made any improvement from when he took the job. If Orsini was serious about his "Top 25" statement then he has to let Doherty go and bring in a bigger name coach. This will not happen because the athletic department has no money to get a bigger name coach and asking the alumni for more funds in this economy will not get it done. I would trade Doherty for just about any other coach in C-USA right now. Any disagreements?


I'd be suprised if you could even name 2/3rds of the coaches in C-USA. Of course I'll never know bc you could look them up and post them here, but I seriously doubt it.


Ha, that is pretty darn easy. They are all name coaches who suck
User avatar
Pony_Fan
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 6130
Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2001 4:01 am
Location: Dallas,Tx, USA

Postby Pony81 » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:49 pm

We are so far from Top 25 it is almost laughable.

Give MD his 5 years - a moot point because we can't afford a buy out anyway.

Hopefully, there will be a few players - McCoy, Otis (big maybe) that develop into solid CUSA players - that the next coach can build around.

I'd be happy with Top 100 at this point. Losing to UAPB is utterly ridiculous.
Pony 81
Pony81
Heisman
 
Posts: 1353
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:09 pm

Postby bagice » Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:22 am

Pony81 wrote:We are so far from Top 25 it is almost laughable.

Give MD his 5 years - a moot point because we can't afford a buy out anyway.

Hopefully, there will be a few players - McCoy, Otis (big maybe) that develop into solid CUSA players - that the next coach can build around.

I'd be happy with Top 100 at this point. Losing to UAPB is utterly ridiculous.


Are you the General's long lost twin sister? We have had a team of mostly freshman and sophmores. What the hell did you expect us to do? I am going to laugh my [deleted] off when we have a perpetual top 25 team in Men's basketball in 4 years.

Yeah, I said it, RoboDoh aint going nowhere, he is going to elevate us.

We are going to beat Houston, we are going to make some serious noise in the C-USA tourney, it is all going to leave us wanting more and we can hardly wait till next year.
Womack + Wishbone = Heisman

Class of 89
User avatar
bagice
Heisman
 
Posts: 1695
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:10 pm
Location: Plano, Tx.

Postby Billy Joe » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:28 am

Let's change the "top 25" to "top 100". "top 100" is a goal that is reachable. I would rate SMU basketball around top 200 right now and SMU football just outside of top 100. We are getting close.
User avatar
Billy Joe
All-American
 
Posts: 946
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:34 am

Postby George S. Patton » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:36 am

Our RPI is in the 270s?
George S. Patton
 

Postby RGV Pony » Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:01 am

couldn't this thread just say "we still suck"?
User avatar
RGV Pony
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 17269
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:01 am
Location: Dallas

Postby jkflamebo » Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:43 pm

RGV Pony wrote:couldn't this thread just say "we still suck"?

and nothing will change next year. when mccoy's a senior we might get a .500 record
User avatar
jkflamebo
Hall of Famer
 
Posts: 2089
Joined: Tue May 03, 2005 8:20 pm

Postby EastStang » Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:52 pm

I agree with the sentiments here. McCoy and Walker are good starts, but not great. I think if Doh finds a good JUCO power forward Dia's schollie goes bye, bye and the same goes for Harp if he finds a good JUCO shooting guard. Nyakundi and Faye are decent role players, but can't carry the team on their backs.
EastStang
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 12664
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2002 4:01 am

Postby PoconoPony » Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:00 pm

George S. Patton wrote:Our RPI is in the 270s?


How can you have a reasonable RPI when your non-conference schedule is UT at Bee Cave, UT at Cut/Shoot, AtM King's Ranch and other basketball power house programs????? For NCAA purposes it is very difficult to have a reasonable RPI playing C-USA teams let alone our embarrassing non-conference schedule. Our goal needs to be in the top 200 the way things are set up and with our current prospects. The bigger picture problem is exemplified with the most current projections that have fewer than 5 non-BCS at-large bids for the Big Dance. Even if we had a season record of 25 wins we would still not be invited as an at-large.
PoconoPony
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 4436
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:01 pm
Location: Nesquehoning, Pennsylvania

Next

Return to Basketball

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests