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The Butler Way

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:19 am
by sbsmith
Would it be right for SMU? They've sustained success over a decade (through 4 coaches) with a team-first, discipline-intensive style that gets the most out of its players. They have a similar profile to SMU (small urban private school, basketball mid-major).

Re: The Butler Way

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:55 am
by RGV Pony
well they get a bunch of two stars and a couple of three stars from Indy and the surrounding area. Yeah, I think we'd be in good shape with the same thing applied to Dallas. Problem is, I think our closest player hails from Abilene.

Re: The Butler Way

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:18 am
by PonyDoh
RGV Pony wrote:well they get a bunch of two stars and a couple of three stars from Indy and the surrounding area. Yeah, I think we'd be in good shape with the same thing applied to Dallas. Problem is, I think our closest player hails from Abilene.


so would you have taken Reggie Sonnier over Alaiksei Patsevich? What about Nick Hinton over Ricmonds vilde? Heck, what about Keith Davis, who used to play for Desoto? Would you take him over Vilde?

I agree that we need to recruit Dallas, but it's certainly not the reason to fire Doh, if it comes to that.

As for the Butler model, it's a very fair line of thinking. We can't just out-athlete people, so we better out system them

Re: The Butler Way

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:34 am
by papawasamustang
PonyDoh wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:well they get a bunch of two stars and a couple of three stars from Indy and the surrounding area. Yeah, I think we'd be in good shape with the same thing applied to Dallas. Problem is, I think our closest player hails from Abilene.


so would you have taken Reggie Sonnier over Alaiksei Patsevich? What about Nick Hinton over Ricmonds vilde? Heck, what about Keith Davis, who used to play for Desoto? Would you take him over Vilde?

I agree that we need to recruit Dallas, but it's certainly not the reason to fire Doh, if it comes to that.

As for the Butler model, it's a very fair line of thinking. We can't just out-athlete people, so we better out system them


I don't think anybody is saying you take Sonnier or Pats or anything like that. On paper, the
10 class looks very good. But honestly, weren't we all saying that about the mag 7 & look how that's worked out. I don't trust Doh with the development of the 10 class or any future classes. Also, lets take a look down the road when they are seniors & see how the Vilde vs. Davis comparisons, Pats vs. Sonnier, etc work out.

Don't get the "out-athlete people". We have a long history of outstanding athletes/basketball players. What it comes down to is the coach recruiting outstanding basketball players, developing them, running the right system, putting them n the best position to win? Get the right coach &
the athlete/system topic takes care of itself.

Gonzaga, Davidson, Butler. Bottom line is they are recruiting good basketball players with high basketball IQ's & players that are fundamentally sound.