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SMU Hoops could feel Big Ten ripples

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:18 am
by Lebanese4Life
I don't know if this has been posted yet. Interesting article by ESPNDallas about SMU entering the Big 12 and the possiblity of hiring Billie Gillespie.

http://espn.go.com/blog/DallasColleges/ ... ealignment

Re: SMU Hoops could feel Big Ten ripples

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:43 am
by smu diamond m
Doherty is in his fourth season. He has seven years on his contract.

Is that right?

Interesting article nonetheless. What are the odds the conferences decide to shift immediately after the school year? It seems like that is something that would take more time to execute

Re: SMU Hoops could feel Big Ten ripples

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:06 am
by ozfan
Lebanese4Life wrote:I don't know if this has been posted yet. Interesting article by ESPNDallas about SMU entering the Big 12 and the possiblity of hiring Billie Gillespie.

http://espn.go.com/blog/DallasColleges/ ... ealignment


Guy that wrote the article must be smoking wildwood flowers again.

Re: SMU Hoops could feel Big Ten ripples

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:45 am
by CalallenStang
How many Gillispie to SMU pieces is this Jeff Caplan guy going to write? I have a felling that Jeff Caplan and "Ttown" are the same guy.

Re: SMU Hoops could feel Big Ten ripples

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:46 am
by CalallenStang
smu diamond m wrote:
Doherty is in his fourth season. He has seven years on his contract.

Is that right?

Interesting article nonetheless. What are the odds the conferences decide to shift immediately after the school year? It seems like that is something that would take more time to execute


The rumor is that Pitt to the Big 10 will be announced by the end of the week. Of course, that's just a rumor.

Re: SMU Hoops could feel Big Ten ripples

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:10 am
by smupony94
We have not seen the guy pushing the Magnolia League in awhile

Re: SMU Hoops could feel Big Ten ripples

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:26 am
by StallionsModelT
Just plain dumb.

Re: SMU Hoops could feel Big Ten ripples

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:15 pm
by RGV Pony
Pitt to the Big 10 and the Big East welcomes home prodigal son Temple. All done.

Re: SMU Hoops could feel Big Ten ripples

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:01 pm
by NickSMU17
Pac 10 has to expand to keep pace....not done yet

Re: SMU Hoops could feel Big Ten ripples

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:26 pm
by 1983 Cotton Bowl
Interesting that he speculates about the Big-10 possibly adding more than one team. I really don't see that. WAC 2.0 tried that model and it did not work. I think 12 teams in two divisions is pretty much the ideal set-up. With that model, you've got your two divisions, you've got your championship game. Adding additional teams beyond 12 adds no value, dilutes the money further, and adds travel and scheduling complications.

Re: SMU Hoops could feel Big Ten ripples

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:42 pm
by EastStang
The Big Ten has to see value on two fronts, (1) monetary namely the new sum is greater than the old sum, and (2) internal strife. Let's say they add Pitt. (1) Will adding Pitt increase revenues enough to justify splitting the pie for one extra mouth? (2) Okay, that means two divisions. Do you split up Ohio State and Michigan into separate divisions? Do you split up Pitt and Penn State? Minnesota-Wisconsin? Indiana -Purdue? Illinois - Northwestern? And if you don't, then which group of teams gets to be the red-eyed step children that are in a division other than the Ohio State/Michigan Division. The Pac 10 adding two teams same issues. Will adding two teams add sufficient conference revenue via TV contracts to justify feeding two more mouths? And I can hear Oregon and Washington complaining that they are in a different division than USC and UCLA. The problem is not the dream of 12 teams, but what you do once you have them.

Re: SMU Hoops could feel Big Ten ripples

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:54 pm
by CalallenStang
EastStang wrote:The Big Ten has to see value on two fronts, (1) monetary namely the new sum is greater than the old sum, and (2) internal strife. Let's say they add Pitt. (1) Will adding Pitt increase revenues enough to justify splitting the pie for one extra mouth? (2) Okay, that means two divisions. Do you split up Ohio State and Michigan into separate divisions? Do you split up Pitt and Penn State? Minnesota-Wisconsin? Indiana -Purdue? Illinois - Northwestern? And if you don't, then which group of teams gets to be the red-eyed step children that are in a division other than the Ohio State/Michigan Division. The Pac 10 adding two teams same issues. Will adding two teams add sufficient conference revenue via TV contracts to justify feeding two more mouths? And I can hear Oregon and Washington complaining that they are in a different division than USC and UCLA. The problem is not the dream of 12 teams, but what you do once you have them.


Big 10 South:
Penn State
Pitt
Ohio State
Indiana
Illinois
Iowa

Big 10 North:
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
Purdue

Scheduling:
Each team plays every other team in their division each year. This is 5 games.
Each team will play a partner opponent from the other division (see below) each year. 1 game.
Each team will play two other opponents from the other division each year. 2 games.
8 games total.

Partner Opponents:

Indiana-Purdue
Michigan-Ohio State
Minnesota-Iowa
Northwestern-Illinois
Wisconsin-Penn State
Michigan State-Pittsburgh