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Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:45 am
by Pony_Fan
Anyone have any new news on this?

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:20 pm
by ponyscott
Pony_Fan wrote:Anyone have any new news on this?


Billy Clyde G is on his way.

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:36 pm
by Pony_Fan
Funny PS

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:08 pm
by moodymadmen
Insiders tell me Doherty isn't calling the shots on this hire for Lutz replacement. SMU insisted on using the search firm Eastman and Beaudine to handle things. Not great news for Doherty if he isn't being allowed to hire his own man at this point...but with all the turnover he has had its hard to blame SMU for taking a different approach this time around.

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:38 pm
by PonyDoh
moodymadmen wrote:Insiders tell me Doherty isn't calling the shots on this hire for Lutz replacement. SMU insisted on using the search firm Eastman and Beaudine to handle things. Not great news for Doherty if he isn't being allowed to hire his own man at this point...but with all the turnover he has had its hard to blame SMU for taking a different approach this time around.


This search isn't nearly that important. They are just looking a for an old X & O guy. They new guy won't have much, if any, recruiting impact. Also, I've seen the list of the final 3 candidates and there is no way a search committee picked them. Pretty much all of them are old NE guys, or spent time on the bench w/Doh. We've done away w/the recruit coordinator label, but Brown is probably the closest to in charge

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:24 pm
by RGV Pony
PonyDoh wrote:
moodymadmen wrote:Insiders tell me Doherty isn't calling the shots on this hire for Lutz replacement. SMU insisted on using the search firm Eastman and Beaudine to handle things. Not great news for Doherty if he isn't being allowed to hire his own man at this point...but with all the turnover he has had its hard to blame SMU for taking a different approach this time around.


This search isn't nearly that important. They are just looking a for an old X & O guy. They new guy won't have much, if any, recruiting impact. Also, I've seen the list of the final 3 candidates and there is no way a search committee picked them. Pretty much all of them are old NE guys, or spent time on the bench w/Doh. We've done away w/the recruit coordinator label, but Brown is probably the closest to in charge


Danny Nee?
Barry Collier?

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:58 pm
by moodymadmen
PonyDoh wrote:
moodymadmen wrote:Insiders tell me Doherty isn't calling the shots on this hire for Lutz replacement. SMU insisted on using the search firm Eastman and Beaudine to handle things. Not great news for Doherty if he isn't being allowed to hire his own man at this point...but with all the turnover he has had its hard to blame SMU for taking a different approach this time around.


This search isn't nearly that important. They are just looking a for an old X & O guy. They new guy won't have much, if any, recruiting impact. Also, I've seen the list of the final 3 candidates and there is no way a search committee picked them. Pretty much all of them are old NE guys, or spent time on the bench w/Doh. We've done away w/the recruit coordinator label, but Brown is probably the closest to in charge


Categorically false. A person with knowledge of the situation stated that the search committee was being used and this isn't Doherty's outright hire.

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:38 am
by MustangIcon
moodymadmen wrote:
PonyDoh wrote:
moodymadmen wrote:Insiders tell me Doherty isn't calling the shots on this hire for Lutz replacement. SMU insisted on using the search firm Eastman and Beaudine to handle things. Not great news for Doherty if he isn't being allowed to hire his own man at this point...but with all the turnover he has had its hard to blame SMU for taking a different approach this time around.


This search isn't nearly that important. They are just looking a for an old X & O guy. They new guy won't have much, if any, recruiting impact. Also, I've seen the list of the final 3 candidates and there is no way a search committee picked them. Pretty much all of them are old NE guys, or spent time on the bench w/Doh. We've done away w/the recruit coordinator label, but Brown is probably the closest to in charge


Categorically false. A person with knowledge of the situation stated that the search committee was being used and this isn't Doherty's outright hire.

A search committee very well could be involved in this hire. All I'm reading here is that based on the final candidates, the search committee did not have as much influence as it appears that Doherty may have, considering they are all NE/former Doh guys.

"Categorically false" may be a bit incorrect on your end.

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:00 pm
by PonyDoh
FWIW, I've never ever, in all my years, heard of a search committee for a light recruiting assistant. It makes no sense. The search committee will cost close to the actual hires eventual salary. Beyond that, all the candidates are Doh guys, out of his past etc. Several of them have been out of coaching for a year or so. Did our search committee recommend guys at finance firms, cause that's partially what we're looking at.

So, I'm not saying we didn't hire a search committee. I'm saying that if we did, Orsini is a bigger hoops turd then I thought.

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:41 pm
by 50's PONY
Pony Doh,
Just curious but how did you get to see "the list" of the final three candidates?

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:54 pm
by Dooby
If they don't trust Doh to hire an assistant they should just let him go. I find this hard to believe.

FWIW, I just looked at the online posting; it doesn't reference Eastman and Beaudine. I recall that the football HC position specifically did.

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:21 pm
by PonyDoh
50's PONY wrote:Pony Doh,
Just curious but how did you get to see "the list" of the final three candidates?


I worded that poorly. I've been told by a few different people, both in the industry, and 'close' to the program, who we are looking at. Five names were already public via Rivals, as well. My list varies slightly from rivals, but it's all the same ball park. I haven't seen any names leaked on this site, but there are plenty out there.

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:56 pm
by Pony_Fan
that is asburd to hire Bob for this one. Most of his placements would be 20-30% of the base salary.
..unless he charges a less fee due to his relationship to SMU.

Can't Doh just make a few phone calls, I find this really strange.

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:42 am
by Bergermeister
PonyDoh wrote: Orsini is a bigger hoops turd then I thought.

"Then" and "than" do not mean the same thing. They should not be used interchangeably. "Than" is the word you want when doing comparisons. But if you are talking about time, choose "then". "Than" rhymes with pan; "then" rhymes with pen. "Another" poster on ponyfans uses "then" exactly the way you do... interesting.

Re: Any news on Lutz replacement?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:47 am
by couch 'em
Bergermeister wrote:
PonyDoh wrote: Orsini is a bigger hoops turd then I thought.

"Then" and "than" do not mean the same thing. They should not be used interchangeably. "Than" is the word you want when doing comparisons. But if you are talking about time, choose "then". "Than" rhymes with pan; "then" rhymes with pen. "Another" poster on ponyfans uses "then" exactly the way you do... interesting.


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