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Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:09 am
by Mitch McConnell

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:36 am
by CalallenStang
What is Harvard doing to be #1? They aren't recruiting great players, we know that. Perhaps they are calculating the proper trajectory of the shot, given the distance from the basket, the height of the basket, and mass of the basketball.

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:52 am
by PonyDoh
CalallenStang wrote:What is Harvard doing to be #1? They aren't recruiting great players, we know that. Perhaps they are calculating the proper trajectory of the shot, given the distance from the basket, the height of the basket, and mass of the basketball.


actually they are recruiting very good players under Amaker. They are pillaging the catholic leagues in the NE for productive but undersized kids etc. They aren't prototype, but their skill level is quite high.

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:26 am
by Terry Webster
Memphis dropped to 215 after last weeks stellar shooting against us.

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:47 am
by CalallenStang
PonyDoh wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:What is Harvard doing to be #1? They aren't recruiting great players, we know that. Perhaps they are calculating the proper trajectory of the shot, given the distance from the basket, the height of the basket, and mass of the basketball.


actually they are recruiting very good players under Amaker. They are pillaging the catholic leagues in the NE for productive but undersized kids etc. They aren't prototype, but their skill level is quite high.


Kind of surprises me considering they've got to find kids that either have the money to pay for Hahvahd or come from a poor enough background that their entire cost of education is paid for.

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:54 am
by PonyPlayer4
We were in the top 5 FT% before the Ole Miss game.

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:04 am
by PonyDoh
CalallenStang wrote:
PonyDoh wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:What is Harvard doing to be #1? They aren't recruiting great players, we know that. Perhaps they are calculating the proper trajectory of the shot, given the distance from the basket, the height of the basket, and mass of the basketball.


actually they are recruiting very good players under Amaker. They are pillaging the catholic leagues in the NE for productive but undersized kids etc. They aren't prototype, but their skill level is quite high.


Kind of surprises me considering they've got to find kids that either have the money to pay for Hahvahd or come from a poor enough background that their entire cost of education is paid for.


that's not quite how it works. They don't give ships, but they give grants. Pretty much all the kids on Ivy's have free rides, and its not due to hardship. Play ball, go to school for free. They have to stay in once there, and have elevated admissions, but nobody worries about paying

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:06 am
by tristatecoog
http://www.ultimatealief.com/stories/22 ... mplex-game

Speaking of Ivy recruiting, you will like reading this article.

Here's a taste...

Admission standards
Admission to an Ivy League school is determined by a student's academic index, basically a point system combining his ACT or SAT scores with his unweighted GPA.

Schools then admit a set number of football players in each of four AI ranges, or bands, each year. Band 4 is the highest - think valedictorians at top-notch prep schools with glowing SAT scores - and Band 1 the lowest.

I remember talking with a Yale hoops coach at the ABCD camp, and he said the absolute lowest he could go on SAT was 950.

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:11 am
by tristatecoog
And KSU is #344 (out of 346) in FT shooting but a very good team on the whole. Penn is around 180.

While Cal Tech isn't Divison 1, I wonder what their FT shooting is. They're a terrible team with modest abilities, but they are probably the smartest collection of players in the nation.

Upon further review, Cal Tech has made 71% of their FTs this year. However, their woeful opponents have made only 59% which would collectively put their opponents at, or near, the bottom of the Division 1.

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:17 am
by CalallenStang
I knew about the stuff TS Coog posted (thanks again, was a nice refresher) but didn't realize that Ivies were giving grants to kids that weren't based on financial need. Sort of dishonest, especially considering the following:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1956/ ... fact-pthe/
Thus the Ivy Group states: "The members of the Group reaffirm their prohibition of athletic scholarships. Athletes shall be admitted as students and awarded financial aid only on the basis of the same academic standards and economic need as are applied to all other students."


Let me be clear: I have no problem with them giving grants. Just be forthright about it.

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:45 am
by tristatecoog
My assumption is that the Alief QB comes from a family making less than $60K per year. **Potentially wild overgeneralization.**

If so, he'd go to Harvard for free. See below from the Harvard admissions and financial aid website:

http://www.admissions.college.harvard.e ... index.html

"Our most recent program enhancement, announced in December of 2007, has dramatically reduced the amount we expect families to contribute to the cost of their student's Harvard education. We no longer require students to take out loans, and parents of financial aid recipients are asked to contribute on average from zero to ten percent of their annual income, with no contribution expected for families with incomes of under $60,000. Those parents with annual incomes of between $120,000 and $180,000 are asked to contribute an average ten percent of their income, with a declining percentage — from ten to zero — for parents with annual incomes between $120,000 and $60,000."

Also, nearly 60 percent receiving need–based scholarships. Could we assume that over 40% of Harvard students' families make over $180K per year? Pretty stout. Similar family income background to SMU?

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:58 am
by CalallenStang
Damn, that's a nice financial aid program.

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:58 pm
by ponyscott
SMU is 17th in 3 point Shooting % and 35th in total FG %.....our shooting coach has made a differnce. The kids that are on the bench and won't play until next year ( yeah I know NEXT year...) will really have a jump start to master their shooting form for the 2011 season by being involved in the coaching for shooters.

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:56 pm
by Pony_Fan
dropped a few notches after the Houston game. Haynes can't hit FT's to save his life.

Re: Top 10 in everything we do

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:19 pm
by Harry0569
I'm happy to see us in the top 20. I remember distinctly playing TCU last year at home, and down the stretch we could not hit one damn FT, while the Froggies hit everyone.

Good to see us up there.