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from A&M. He was Turgeon's last 'big' recruit at A&M, so that means he's very familiar w/our recruit coordinator, Pooh Williamson. For those upset w/the PG play, something to chew on

do you even have to ask the question have transfers helped us win games?

Yes Travis, Baylor probably has 2 NBA players haha.

They have 2 top 10 picks!!!!

Think of where we would have been in the standings without Derek Williams...

Travis Bickle wrote:

ClickClack wrote:Think of where we would have been in the standings without Derek Williams...

Well without him last year we won 20 and we had our best conference record in the last six years. Nothing against Derek but who knows how we would have been without him. We will never know the answer to that question. Just know we didn't win 50 percent of our games in the league.

Nothing against Derek but he is averaging 1.8 points in the D League. He was a scoring point guard and glad we had him but wasn't an IMPACT player that enabled us to win 20 games and get to the CIT or NIT, etc.

Mangrum...

So are you saying we shouldn't accept his transfer if SMU is one of the schools he's considering? Would you take him over Frog given what we know if his potential and Frog's track record?

For me, I'll take a shot at Branch. You never know if you don't give it a shot.

We just have to find out if SMU is even on his mind.

I think it's a total crapshoot on transfers and whether they will have an impact or not.

But when you have a player like Branch's credentials, it's hard to ignore that.

We can agree that the PG position needs a major upgrade here.

Mitch McConnell wrote:I think it's a total crapshoot on transfers and whether they will have an impact or not.

But when you have a player like Branch's credentials, it's hard to ignore that.

We can agree that the PG position needs a major upgrade here.

precisely

This kid was a high school transfer for athletic purposes. Not surprised to see him as a college transfer.

Shawn Williams looks like he could be a pretty good transfer player for us............

Travis Bickle wrote:

LHS81 wrote:This kid was a high school transfer for athletic purposes. Not surprised to see him as a college transfer.

OK, I might really start an uproar on this statement. Do you think players such as Jamal Branch transfer in high school to places like Grace Prep where they absolutely are the MAN and everyone is afraid to "get" on them and once they get to college and get some coaching and find out they are not perfect and the coach "yells, screams, and demands" things from them - well - they transfer again. THOUGHTS! One other thing to remember for the most part - the competition is really bad so he dominates.

Give me a touch hard-nose kid like our recruit from New York anyday or a Robert N. who just keeps working. Yea, he had a bad game against La. Tech but he will be back.

1) You make it seem like Branch is a malcontent, he's not. He committed to Turgeon over 2 years ago and never waivered. He was upset when Turgeon left, even more upset when A&M left the Big 12. Then, A&M hired J'Mychal Reese's Dad, just to get Reese, who plays a similar position. On top of that, the new head coach gets parkinson's, I believe, and he's being coached by scum like Glenn Cyprien.

You are correct, though. Kids these days have entourages, yes men, and are told they are the world. When things go poorly, they tend to run. That & schools writing off on coaches being able to force out under-performers, has the transfer rate at an all-time high. Neither party is committed to the other anymore. That said, lots more to Branch than all of that.

2) The kids at Grace Prep & Prestonwood play the best competition of any schools in Texas. They play a national schedule, and the teams themselves are at least 5 deep in D1 kids, several on each squad being high majors. On top of that, Branch played for one of the best traveling squads in Texas. The kid has never ducked anyone on the court

Turgeon wasn't hired until very late, after the Spring period. Leaving w/o another program lined up, w/an open ship, would have been quite difficult for Branch.

Also, I've known Cyp forever, worked side by side in Vegas, and he's the definition of sketchy. Not to mention basically lying on his resume to get the ULL job, from which he was let go, after they found out. FWIW, ask anyone who works in basketball full-time about Cyp. Interesting tidbit: an ex-SMU assistant was interviewed & offered a position on Kennedy's staff. This individual bleeds Texas and would have loved to be in the Big 12. He declined b/c he refused to take orders from Cyp, who he was afraid would derail his career w/his loose trail tactics.

Cyp is a good guy and friend, but he's lawless

Maryland has a '12 PG coming in, and co-lead for the Harrison twins in '13, so they are going to be careful w/their PG openings.

Definitely a no degree thing w/Cyp. Got it at UTSA right after ULL deal. Lots of slippery recruiters out there. I have no problem w/it, or Cyp for that matter, but its what it is.

Transferred to St. John's

PonySnob wrote:Shawn Williams looks like he could be a pretty good transfer player for us............

I agree. I just wish he would control the ball a little more. Not sure if it is him or coach.