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Updated RPI 1/17

#19 UConn
#28 Cinci
#32 Memphis
#37 SMU
#41 Louisville

wowza

ponyinNC wrote:Updated RPI 1/17

#19 UConn
#28 Cinci
#32 Memphis
#37 SMU
#41 Louisville

wowza

Dumb question: are tourney invites based on RPI or is it more complicated/subjective than that?

ojaipony wrote:

ponyinNC wrote:Updated RPI 1/17

#19 UConn
#28 Cinci
#32 Memphis
#37 SMU
#41 Louisville

wowza

Dumb question: are tourney invites based on RPI or is it more complicated/subjective than that?

Both

First Take on ESPN said Cincinnati is the under-the-radar team that will make noise in the tourney

ojaipony wrote:

ponyinNC wrote:Updated RPI 1/17

#19 UConn
#28 Cinci
#32 Memphis
#37 SMU
#41 Louisville

wowza

Dumb question: are tourney invites based on RPI or is it more complicated/subjective than that?

Wins-Losses are most important obviously. But RPI has been developed to compare teams. It's a calculation that takes into account how good your opponents are, who you've played, ect, kind of allows you to compare teams on equal footing regardless of competition. Obviously Louisville is probably better on a neutral court even though SMU compares favorably in RPI. The committee definitely looks at RPIs when looking at seeding a tie-breakers but it's not the end all be all. Stronger RPI is much better though, just another metric to validate a team.

LA_Mustang wrote:First Take on ESPN said Cincinnati is the under-the-radar team that will make noise in the tourney

I agree

Didn't Dement have us at 38 right before the disastrous weekend homestand where both Tulsa and TCU beat us at the Buzzer. Willie Davis with the ball in the open with 6 seconds dribbles ball off leg instead of running clock out. Otherwise, this is the highest we've been this late since Kato Armstrong days

LA_Mustang wrote:First Take on ESPN said Cincinnati is the under-the-radar team that will make noise in the tourney

Why on earth do you watch first take ?!?!?!

Grant Carter wrote:

ojaipony wrote:

ponyinNC wrote:Updated RPI 1/17

#19 UConn
#28 Cinci
#32 Memphis
#37 SMU
#41 Louisville

wowza

Dumb question: are tourney invites based on RPI or is it more complicated/subjective than that?

Both

Another dumb question -- Will they also look at things like Top 10 TV market and a great back story about a legendary coach returning to the college to turn a program around?

max the wonder dog wrote:
Dumb question: are tourney invites based on RPI or is it more complicated/subjective than that?

Both[/quote]

Another dumb question -- Will they also look at things like Top 10 TV market and a great back story about a legendary coach returning to the college to turn a program around?[/quote]

No they won't. Strictly the team. And it's a committee, so there's a lot of bubble teams you can make an argument for each year. But I've never heard TV market and back stories putting a team over the top. That's not exactly fair to the other teams.

OhioBrownFan wrote:

max the wonder dog wrote:
Dumb question: are tourney invites based on RPI or is it more complicated/subjective than that?

Both

Another dumb question -- Will they also look at things like Top 10 TV market and a great back story about a legendary coach returning to the college to turn a program around?[/quote]

No they won't. Strictly the team. And it's a committee, so there's a lot of bubble teams you can make an argument for each year. But I've never heard TV market and back stories putting a team over the top. That's not exactly fair to the other teams.[/quote]
I agree the committee doesn't look for good stories in making invites. Rather, they look for them in potential match ups.

But it's not AT ALL about fairness. It's about everyone on the committee trying to maximize invites for their conference. Who's on the committee this year from the American? I hope the AAC isn't cut out because they were planning to have a Seton Hall or some such repping them?

It all depends on where they want the second round host sites number 1s to be sent to: Kentucky, UNC, Duke all need to be separated ... everything goes downhill from there...


If we aren't in the RPI top 40 I wouldn't expect an invite. That's a general rule for any non-conference champion team.

There are too many name brand schools that would be in the 40-50 range that they would be persuaded to take over us, plus all of the automatic qualifiers winning their conference tourneys that may be well RPI-ed below us, and not just from lesser conferences....there will be 2-3 from big 6-7 conferences that were the 4th or 5th best team in their conference (in bubble trouble) make a run for their respective conference or win it (tourney) outright, taking a potential slot away from us.

Watch the "bubble" teams from the top conferences that make the tourney get 7-8-9 seeds...(like, if they were a bubble team, why did they get such high seeds?). See above.

Give me seed 11-12-13 over 7-8-9 anyway