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John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:44 amby SMUPhil
Featured as part of the Notre Dame team that ended UCLA's win streak.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/He was before my time at SMU, what happened to him here? I know he led us to our last NCAA berth.
Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:09 amby PonySnob
SMUPhil wrote:Featured as part of the Notre Dame team that ended UCLA's win streak.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/He was before my time at SMU, what happened to him here? I know he led us to our last NCAA berth.
Believe he nearly had a mutiny by the team that season and the is why we wore black shoes and played a very uptempo style of offense. They were fun to watch until they list to last place TCU in the conference tournament.
Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:59 amby docabel
He also had a habit of wearing his Notre Dame gear (ties, etc.) around campus which rubbed many the wrong way.
Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:06 pmby Digetydog
SMUPhil wrote:Featured as part of the Notre Dame team that ended UCLA's win streak.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/He was before my time at SMU, what happened to him here? I know he led us to our last NCAA berth.
He started out strong with the team he inherited. Unfortunately, he was unable to bring in much talent and was viewed by some as a lazy recruiter. But, he was coaching during the post-DP restrictions that strangled the FB team.
Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:32 pmby Treadway21
Digetydog wrote:SMUPhil wrote:Featured as part of the Notre Dame team that ended UCLA's win streak.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/He was before my time at SMU, what happened to him here? I know he led us to our last NCAA berth.
He started out strong with the team he inherited. Unfortunately, he was unable to bring in much talent and was viewed by some as a lazy recruiter. But, he was coaching during the post-DP restrictions that strangled the FB team.
This is pretty much my take. He just did not click and did not connect here locally with the High Schools. The talent did not get replaced. He was not a good fit post DP and after Bliss. Unfortunately, we lost a lot of Hoops momentum during his tenure, whether it was his fault or not.
And of course, we had to overcome the Larry Johnson fiasco. More self made bad luck by SMU post DP.
Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:03 pmby GRGB
The Motion Offense was SPECTACULAR
Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:09 pmby Terry Webster
I seem to recall some criticism that he went home every summer and wouldn't do any camps either.
Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:13 pmby DanFreibergerForHeisman
The handshake with Tommy Penders will always be one of my all-time SMU highlights though.
Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:52 pmby Treadway21
DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:The handshake with Tommy Penders will always be one of my all-time SMU highlights though.
Not sure I remember that. What happened.
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Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:01 pmby SMU 86
Treadway21 wrote:DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:The handshake with Tommy Penders will always be one of my all-time SMU highlights though.
Not sure I remember that. What happened.
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Shumate when shaking hands with Penders kind of slapped his hand rather hard after we lost to Texas.
Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:09 pmby DanFreibergerForHeisman
Treadway21 wrote:DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:The handshake with Tommy Penders will always be one of my all-time SMU highlights though.
Not sure I remember that. What happened.
Close game late. We were trying to foul Texas and the refs wouldn't call any fouls. Shumate was livid and consequently pounded the living daylights out of Penders' hand during the "handshake" after the game (amid a shower of the free little plastic megaphones littering the court from the fans).
It must have been February 28, 1989 - an 82-79 loss to Texas at Moody in Shumate's first year.
Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:13 pmby PonyFan
I thought he broke Penders' hand.
Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:14 pmby DanFreibergerForHeisman
PonyFan wrote:I thought he broke Penders' hand.
He very well might have as hard as he hit it.
Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:03 pmby Cardinal Puff
[quote]I seem to recall some criticism that he went home every summer and wouldn't do any camps either./quote]
I don't believe he ever lived in Dallas. Went back to Phoenix every opportunity. Not at all engaged with the SMU community. That said, he really did coach up his players and played the talent to the few strengths we had at any time.
Re: John Shumate on ESPN.com
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Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:12 pmby birddogger
Cardinal Puff wrote:I seem to recall some criticism that he went home every summer and wouldn't do any camps either./quote]
I don't believe he ever lived in Dallas. Went back to Phoenix every opportunity. Not at all engaged with the SMU community. That said, he really did coach up his players and played the talent to the few strengths we had at any time.
Geez. History repeats itself (see football board).