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SMU Snubbed by 4 Ten-Thousandths of a fictional Point?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:03 pm
by ponyscott
"Must-Stung: SMU Snubbed by 4 Ten-Thousandths of a Probably Fictional Point

Here’s the difference between NC State (dance bound) and SMU (stunned, shocked and saddened) in the RPI ratings…which is weighed heavily by the NCAA Tournament selection committee when determining who gets invited.

#53 NC St.: .5714
#54 SMU : .5718

That’s the breaks. Except…it looks indefensible when you realize how ratings methods that have been documented as superior to RPI had the teams rated.

Kenpom: SMU #32, NC State #66
Sagarin: SMU #33, NC State #70
ESPN’s BPI: SMU #33, NC State #66

If the committee really had done comprehensive analysis over a variety of categories, you’d think that the overwhelming advantages seen by other methodologies would have trumped the four ten-thousandths of a point shown by RPI. Or, this might have come up in the discussion…

Against RPI Top 50: SMU 4-6, NC State 3-9
Against Sagarin Top 50: SMU 4-6, NC State 4-8

The stories I’m seeing so far in the media about this example are talking mostly about how disappointed the SMU coach, players, and fans have been in the aftermath. Wanted to get the apparent size of the error made in this case down on paper so it can be included in the discussion.

Aiming to have estimated Market Power Ratings put together for you by Monday night. Want to give sharps some time during the day Monday to shape the lines. We don’t want “oddsmaker” Power Ratings. We want what’s left after sharps improve the openers. "

Posted 15 hours ago by Jeff Fogle

Re: SMU Snubbed by 4 Ten-Thousandths of a fictional Point?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:41 pm
by Pony ^
what a [deleted] joke

Re: SMU Snubbed by 4 Ten-Thousandths of a fictional Point?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:52 pm
by Bergermeister
"They" can pick on SMU because "they" know we'll take what "they" dish out.... and not put up a fight.

As Clayton Williams would say..."just relax and enjoy it." :x

Re: SMU Snubbed by 4 Ten-Thousandths of a fictional Point?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:56 pm
by mustang1992
Didn't the chairman say it was primarily our SOS, especially our OOC SOS that put us behind. He said we were in the 130's and the next closest team that got in was in the 90's? Isn't that what he was emphasizing?

Overall it seems like many of you have hit the nail on the head. I think there was a definite AAC bias going on here, why would they put 3 teams from the same conference in the same quarter, when only 4 got in to begin with?

Re: SMU Snubbed by 4 Ten-Thousandths of a fictional Point?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:57 pm
by Harry0569

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:22 pm
by Junior
Still don't understand how Tennessee and Nebraska and BYU got in...

Re: SMU Snubbed by 4 Ten-Thousandths of a fictional Point?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:33 pm
by Stallion
its called horse trading among BCS conferences with representatives. Let's see here we got 5 teams for 4 spots-you guys vote for my team and I'll vote for your's. The school with no conference representative gets left out. That's what happened.

Re: SMU Snubbed by 4 Ten-Thousandths of a fictional Point?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:38 pm
by EastStang
And no way the BE was going to let the American have five bids to their three. The fact is that they down valued Louisville who I think is the second best team in the Country right now behind Florida. Once you down value Louisville, you have downgrade all conference wins for American teams. To bad that three clanked off the rim against Virginia.

Re: SMU Snubbed by 4 Ten-Thousandths of a fictional Point?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:01 pm
by ponyscott
Stallion wrote:its called horse trading among BCS conferences with representatives. Let's see here we got 5 teams for 4 spots-you guys vote for my team and I'll vote for your's. The school with no conference representative gets left out. That's what happened.

Sounds plausible.