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Critical factor in not selecting SMU...

Postby PonyKris89 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:56 pm

…OK, I think I got in Now…

So the most important criteria according to Selection Committee chair WF AD Wellman in choosing or not choosing SMU is their weak teams faced in out of conference schedule? Right? OK…

So, the most important factor in choosing an NCAA team is the weak part of your OOC. In other words, the $hitty teams SMU beat were $hittier than the $hitty teams NC State beat.
Man, that's an awesome way to decide the final team. I can't believe they haven't done this for years, but silly me, what do I know?

NCAA football ought to do this, makes a lot of sense.

...Carry on, PonyFans
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Re: Critical factor in not selecting SMU...

Postby gostangs » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:22 pm

its not just the crappy teams that NC state beat - its the pretty good teams they lost to. Thats how you know they are deserving. They are willing to lose.
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Re: Critical factor in not selecting SMU...

Postby redpony » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:36 pm

The real answer is POLITICS. We had no representation on the committee (thank you Aresco) and the dukies royally kissed arse to get some of their own in.
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Re: Critical factor in not selecting SMU...

Postby mrydel » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:47 pm

redpony wrote:The real answer is POLITICS. We had no representation on the committee (thank you Aresco) and the dukies royally kissed arse to get some of their own in.

The committee existed before the American did. How can you blame that on Aresco?
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Re: Critical factor in not selecting SMU...

Postby redpony » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:51 pm

Obviously - the 'committee' has existed many years before the AAC. However, IMO it was incumbent on Aresco to see that we were represented after the split from the BE. IIRC some conferences had more than one member (maybe ACC)?
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Postby Pony ^ » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:57 pm

redpony wrote:Obviously - the 'committee' has existed many years before the AAC. However, IMO it was incumbent on Aresco to see that we were represented after the split from the BE. IIRC some conferences had more than one member (maybe ACC)?

ACC technically had 3 committee members is you include Mike Czkwesezki (no idea how to spell it)
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Re: Critical factor in not selecting SMU...

Postby mrydel » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:03 pm

Oh, I see. Well I am mad that the right does not control the Senate so I am going to get a few friends and make them include us.

You cannot just form a new conference and demand a place at the head table. This year we were at the children's table. Now next year we should be fighting for representation.
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Re: Critical factor in not selecting SMU...

Postby SMU Section F » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:05 pm

mrydel wrote:Oh, I see. Well I am mad that the right does not control the Senate so I am going to get a few friends and make them include us.

You cannot just form a new conference and demand a place at the head table. This year we were at the children's table. Now next year we should be fighting for representation.

Yep. Growing pains of a new conference. Would Orsini still be on the committee if he were still at SMU? Not sure how long the "terms" are...
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Re: Critical factor in not selecting SMU...

Postby Pony147 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:42 pm

SMU Section F wrote: Not sure how long the "terms" are...


Per Wikipedia, the terms are for 5 years

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_basketball_tournament_selection_process#Current_men.27s_committee_members
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Postby CalallenStang » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:45 pm

Pony ^ wrote:
redpony wrote:Obviously - the 'committee' has existed many years before the AAC. However, IMO it was incumbent on Aresco to see that we were represented after the split from the BE. IIRC some conferences had more than one member (maybe ACC)?

ACC technically had 3 committee members is you include Mike Czkwesezki (no idea how to spell it)


Not looking it up...Krzyzewski. Am I close?
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Re: Critical factor in not selecting SMU...

Postby mrydel » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:49 pm

You simply spell it like it does not sound.
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Re: Critical factor in not selecting SMU...

Postby gostangs » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:50 pm

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Re: Critical factor in not selecting SMU...

Postby StandUp » Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:18 pm

The thing that bothers me the most is why our Conference Commissioner allowed the AAC to not have representation in the Selection Committee. Did the AAC Conference Commissioner really not see this happening to SMU and all AAC Teams without representation?

Why is this all coming to light after Selection Sunday? Shouldn't this be something that is addressed prior to Selection Sunday? Who is not doing their job? And how much money is this costing AAC Teams? Why didn't Hart address this prior to Selection Sunday?

And better yet, what is Hart doing about these issues moving forward? I would hate for the same thing to happen to SMU next year. No representation. The world is always going to revolve around money and politics. So what is SMU doing about making sure that we are in a better position for Selection Sunday next year?
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Re: Critical factor in not selecting SMU...

Postby smusic 00 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:20 pm

The committee was formed before the AAC was.
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Re: Critical factor in not selecting SMU...

Postby StandUp » Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:38 pm

I understand that Selection Committee was formed before the AAC. I would think that the AAC would have taken that into account when they decided to form a new conference? Why wouldn't the AAC Commissioner and AAC College Athletic Directors make sure that there was representation from the conference in the Selection Committee?

Just seems like someone wasn't thinking far enough ahead for the success of the conference. How can the Commissioner of the AAC not see that no representation in the Selection Committee might cause political problems?

So we all know that SMU got screwed this year. What is our plan moving forward? Ok, we can schedule a few tougher OOC teams, but we are going to be in a weaker overall conference (without Louisville). Doesn't that mean that the AAC is going to be viewed as even weaker by the Selection Committee next year? We need to somehow schedule "all or most" of our OOC as tough games, otherwise we run the risk of being seen as only a good team that plays is a weak conference. We are much better than that!

What is SMU's plan? What is the AAC's plan for gaining respect nationally?
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