PonyFans.comBoard IndexAround the HilltopFootballRecruitingBasketballOther Sports

What's up, Keith Frazier?

Anything involving SMU basketball belongs here.

Moderators: PonyPride, SmooPower

What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby MFFL02 » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:10 am

I've watched every game this season except the past two. It looked like KF was finally realizing his potential, playing with confidence and contributing by doing a whole lot more than shoot 3's. But after games of 17, 16 and 16 points, he's gone for 4 and 0 the past two games. From those who watched the games, what is happening? I really thought he turned a corner and would be someone who showed up on a consistent basis.
I miss Troy Matthews.
MFFL02
All-American
 
Posts: 959
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:49 pm

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby GiddyUp » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:20 am

Doesnt seem to be setting his feet and the tv announcer said he hasnt made one 3 shot unassisted all year. Catch and shoot
User avatar
GiddyUp
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 8227
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:48 pm

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby The PonyGrad » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:21 am

Hey, he had the towel going last night! :wink:

Played good D and it would help to hit that first shot.
:?
Go Ponies!!
Beat whoever it is we are playing!!

@PonyGrad
User avatar
The PonyGrad
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 5151
Joined: Fri Jan 03, 2003 4:01 am
Location: The Colony, TX

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby PonyKris89 » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:01 am

Very disappointing turn last couple games.
Thought he had turned the corner.

The hitch in his shot is back(big leg kick) and making a lot of mistakes.
Beat the hell out of anybody!
User avatar
PonyKris89
Heisman
 
Posts: 1877
Joined: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:43 pm
Location: Aubrey, Tx

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby photopony » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:35 am

I think he had a mental block last night. Had several good shots but nothing wanted to go in for him.
User avatar
photopony
Varsity
 
Posts: 446
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:15 am

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby gostangs » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:35 am

He's gone cold. It happens. He'll be back.

More concerned about Ben Moore playing soft. Very few rebounds from him. We have to get tougher inside. Yanick had best game of the year and someone obviously told him to ALWAYS slam when he is underneath.

Great defensive game all around. We need to find some more scorers.
gostangs
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 12315
Joined: Mon Dec 02, 2002 4:01 am
Location: Dallas, Texas USA

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby ParkyPony » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:50 am

I sit real close to the floor and have a great view from behind of when the Ponies are shooting in front of the visiting teams bench. From what I've seen, he looks as though he is not following through with a pure hand down release, that is going straight down with the hand. He looks as though when he start's to release, he is pushing the ball to the right with some type of weird English on the ball. I don't know if it is just an inconsistency or if he has indeed changed his shot. Whatever it is, it's not working.
ParkyPony
Varsity
 
Posts: 257
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:10 pm

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby Pony81 » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:50 am

I thought KF's defense was the best I've ever seen. Tenacious with tons of effort.

He missed his shot but that happens. I think he has turned a corner and is much more comfortable playing the college game.
Pony 81
Pony81
Heisman
 
Posts: 1353
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:09 pm

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby hoopmanx » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:55 am

It's clear they prepared Ben Moore for the season one way and are being forced to play him another. He needs to learn to face w/more consistency and the handle is there. He can't shoot a lick, though, which is a big set back in hat transition

The fact we aren't riding Yanick bothers me. He gets himself in position to make a legit low post touch every possession, unless we shoot before he rolls off the screen. Seriously. of our perimeter players not named Nic, name a better option
User avatar
hoopmanx
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 4871
Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:36 am

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby gostangs » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:01 am

He had his best game. Nic tried to feed him inside over the top a bit but I thought he was a bit slow footed on those. Much tougher under the basket last night. I think he got riled up early and that helped his intensity. I think we could look at him and Ben Moore inside a bit more on passes to get our perimeter more open. We need more inside out.
gostangs
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 12315
Joined: Mon Dec 02, 2002 4:01 am
Location: Dallas, Texas USA

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby Stallion » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:54 am

Not as concerned

He's still getting good shots in the flow of the offense and he's not forcing shots. Defense is improved and he contributing in more ways

I think its your basic shooting slump
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris

When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
Stallion
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 44302
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2000 4:01 am
Location: Dallas,Texas,USA

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby SMUstangs22 » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:28 pm

hoopmanx wrote:It's clear they prepared Ben Moore for the season one way and are being forced to play him another. He needs to learn to face w/more consistency and the handle is there. He can't shoot a lick, though, which is a big set back in hat transition

The fact we aren't riding Yanick bothers me. He gets himself in position to make a legit low post touch every possession, unless we shoot before he rolls off the screen. Seriously. of our perimeter players not named Nic, name a better option


I agree. Do you think they prepared him to play the 3 with his size and dribble ability?

KF will be fine. He is in his own head on offense. That is the problem. His def looks much improved though.
SMUstangs22
Hall of Famer
 
Posts: 2732
Joined: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:06 pm

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby Lebanese4Life » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:39 pm

GiddyUp wrote:Doesnt seem to be setting his feet and the tv announcer said he hasnt made one 3 shot unassisted all year. Catch and shoot


He's a shooting guard, doesn't surprise me that all his threes have been assisted. I think that the only person who hasn't had an unassisted 3 is Nic cause as he's bringing up the ball he can pull and pop
Lebanese4Life
Hall of Famer
 
Posts: 2937
Joined: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:58 am
Location: Kuwait

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby JasonB » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:16 pm

We only have one person who can dribble penetrate, and that is Nic. We were counting on that from Mudiay. We lost Russel, who did it last season, and even RM doesn't do it as much as last season. So, we don't have great spacing and nobody penetrates and dishes it back out.

The other thing that opens the 3 is an inside outside game. MK does a great job when he gets the ball inside of sucking players in. He is so physical, he can afford to draw a double and pass out of it. BM wasn't prepped to do that ahead of this season, and neither YM or CC are physical enough to body up, draw the double, and kick. They pretty much attack right when they get the ball.

For Keith to be more effective, we need BE to start driving and dishing, which I think he is capable of. And then getting MK back will help spacing and open things up as well.
JasonB
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 7226
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Allen, Tx, USA

Re: What's up, Keith Frazier?

Postby ojaipony » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:22 am

Offensively, we need to run (with RM/Nic/Yanick and even BenM and CC). We are big and deep in the front court but they are "running bigs" if that makes sense. Finesse and length and speed (even with MK). And most runs are set up on the defensive end - why LB stresses that so much. I'd like to see us averaging up around 75-ish points per game.
ojaipony
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 8281
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:02 pm
Location: Austin, TX

Next

Return to Basketball

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest